Why does one party always have to be blameless for another to be at fault?

The ball boy certainly contributed to the incident by lying on the ball after he fell/was pushed over and then he also miked it a bit afterwards. Its clear he is a bit of a jack the lad who was trying to take advantage of the original tumble to waste a bit of time/clown around.

But that does not mean he deserved to be kicked by a premier league player who should know better. unless of course you believe that players should be allowed to lay into any ball boy (or indeed fan when the ball goes into the crowd) who does not give the ball straight back to them within 2 seconds? i've been at games where the ball boys have deliberately remained on their stools and made our players fetch balls themselves, clearly under instruction from the clubs. perhaps our players should have t**tted them round the head for their insolence!

Posted By: Jim on January 24th 2013 at 10:23:00

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I've had a long hard think about last night and I now have a slightly different view (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 09:52:18
- The ball boy is irrelevant. What happened was correct, and Hazard is the dickhead (Other Football) - pants, Jan 24, 10:14:48
  - The ball boy is clearly not irrelevant is he? (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:44:28
    - Let's stick to the facts, he's retrieving the ball, and the player pushes him over (Other Football) - pants, Jan 24, 10:46:38
      - We'll just have to disagree on that point I think. (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:48:24
        
        htehb (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 10:49:16
  - I think, on reflection, that you're absolutely right (n/m) (Other Football) - Adster, Jan 24, 10:32:20
  - So the ballboy is blameless - I'd expect that from you Pants! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jan 24, 10:18:09
    - Erm, yeah, pretty much. If the crowd don't return the ball, and delay the match (Other Football) - pants, Jan 24, 10:27:03
    - Why does one party always have to be blameless for another to be at fault? (Other Football) - Jim, Jan 24, 10:23:00
      - The case that's being made is, the kid should have just been pushed over and taken it (Other Football) - pants, Jan 24, 10:30:20
        
        Bullseye (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jan 24, 11:13:22
        
        Yep, in that the ballscrote's stupid behaviour has a correlation with the state... (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 11:25:35
        
        "If professionals don't like what the kid did, then football needs to change, because (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 24, 10:34:25
        
        Yep - that's a fair point. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:45:37
      - This is true, and Hazard can't have been aware it was a 17-year old tosser when he kicked (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jan 24, 10:27:39
- Pat Nevin called himself a guardian reading liberal this morning, then went on to say that (Other Football) - Adster, Jan 24, 10:06:53
- Agreed - appealing to the ref acting liked he'd been shot - cunt! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jan 24, 10:00:07
  - Pat Nevin pot on this morning (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:01:38
    - VMT. BBC refused to show any other camera angle which would have shown the truth (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, Jan 24, 10:02:50
      - The truth being he kicked the kid in the ribs? (Other Football) - Jim, Jan 24, 10:15:20
        
        both to blame. both did the wrong thing but the ball boy more to blame imho (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, Jan 24, 10:25:02
        
        He didn't kick him in the ribs - the lad was milking it for all he was worth! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, Jan 24, 10:19:23
        
        He did. There is no way that a rationale human being can watch that footage and (Other Football) - Jim, Jan 24, 10:24:18
        
        did make contact even! Doh! (n/m) (Other Football) - Jim, Jan 24, 10:31:26
        
        He shouldn't be kicking out at him, whether he hit his ribs or not. (Other Football) - Hertz van Rental, Jan 24, 10:28:40
    - *spot*! (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:02:19
- The ball boy (Other Football) - fleckmatic, Jan 24, 09:54:39
  - His ACTUAL JOB is to retrieve and return the ball. His ACTUAL JOB. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:03:08
    - So getting pushed over whilst he was doing that, is like an appraisal of his work? (Other Football) - pants, Jan 24, 10:39:38
      - He was trying to get the ball off him and the ballboy was preventing him! (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:47:04
  - To be fair, he's felt contact so is entitled to go to ground. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jan 24, 09:56:22
    - haha (n/m) (Other Football) - scruffy, Jan 24, 10:29:32
    - Haha (n/m) (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jan 24, 10:23:13
    - Fergie this morning : "That ball boy could have been killed you know !" (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, Jan 24, 10:01:52
    - lulz (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 10:00:45
    - ROLF (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 24, 09:56:47
  - Little shit (Other Football) - norway, Jan 24, 09:55:28

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