Yes!

Why people can't rationally discuss this is beyond me. You don't have to be for or against any player to say he was great/s**t in any given game.

I thought he had a really good game against Villa in the cup, and last season he did well - 9 Prem goals in your first season is a great return.

But yesterday he was utter gash in almost every way.

Posted By: duke of york on December 23rd 2012 at 11:33:00

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Scapegoats (NCFC) - Buford T Justice, Dec 23, 10:57:27
- Kevin Bond, Rob Newman and what about Iwan's 1st season....! (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Dec 23, 12:41:23
- didn't Steve Bruce score an own goal on his debut (NCFC) - Kar1, Dec 23, 11:42:06
  - Turner was awful in his first few games. Makes the turnaround even more impressive (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 23, 12:20:34
- Worst case of scapegoating at Norwich (NCFC) - Cannydc, Dec 23, 11:35:44
  - Bristol city at home? (NCFC) - 51eve, Dec 23, 12:04:36
  - I always look back on the treatment of Gibbs here quite sadly (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:41:27
    - Gibbs wasn't for really ready Championship football at that time was he? (n/m) (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 23, 13:14:05
    - Similarly, I grew bored of hearing how Bertrand "isn't that good" (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:43:22
      - Support is irrational says Grant Holt hating, Roeder loving pants.... (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 23, 12:23:54
      - Thought everyone liked Bertrand (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 23, 11:43:47
        
        Bertrands first game (from memory) was the cup game vs Bury? (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Dec 23, 13:12:19
        
        I liked Bertrand as well, very good player. Gibbs was awful for us. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 23, 12:21:14
    - Yes, but a) he was played out of position in midfield (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 23, 11:42:42
      - One game where he was effective in that midfield (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:45:58
        
        Well, he was injured for some of it (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 23, 11:47:39
- Bunn will turn out fine, they'll find someone else to bitch about (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:03:29
  - Shame the same can't be said about Morison (n/m) (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Dec 23, 11:08:42
    - I thought he played ok yesterday (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:10:53
      - I just mean, shame "Morison will turn out fine" can't be said about him (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Dec 23, 11:14:43
        
        has had good games but was dire yesterday (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 23, 11:27:33
        
        Yes! (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 23, 11:33:00
        
        yes. What I was trying to say... but said more succinctly than (NCFC) - Pixelman, Dec 23, 11:39:06
        
        The service into him was pretty bad, most of the time we were (NCFC) - RootunTootunHootun, Dec 23, 11:30:15
        
        strangly my concerns are not around (NCFC) - Pixelman, Dec 23, 11:36:36
        
        He just wasn't running for things second half (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 23, 11:38:57
        
        Yes. I hated that. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Dec 23, 12:02:55
        
        It is pretty obvious he is not a Premiership level player (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 23, 12:26:56
        
        I know what you mean but iirc he played two superbly weighted passes yesterday (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:38:39
        
        I wanted us to swap Snodds and Pilks and try pace down the flanks and crosses into the box (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:35:50
        
        yeah our style not really playing to his strengths (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 23, 11:34:52
        
        If you could watch the game again, and track what him and Lukaku did (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:25:13
        
        Am I worng or did he look a little better on his wrong side yesterday? (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:19:21
  - like Holt, for instance? You aren't without fault in the slagging players stakes (n/m) (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:04:53
    - I'll maybe reply later when (you know, I'm not getting that can of worms this time of year (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:10:17
      - I'm not after a barney, honest. Motes and beams, that's all. (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:17:39
        
        Hughes had his defenders back in the day. Personally I thought him utter shite. (NCFC) - phrankin, Dec 23, 12:32:51
        
        Fair point. (NCFC) - pants, Dec 23, 11:33:18
        
        I liked Sheron.... and (NCFC) - Pixelman, Dec 23, 11:20:32
    - ROLF (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 23, 11:08:06
- Though tbf Turner didn't play well at all (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Dec 23, 11:02:13
  - True butGot stitched up by Garrido.. (NCFC) - loz, Dec 23, 11:04:28

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