If no details are taken by the seller it can't. But...

the cell from which you call or send messages is always recorded. Plus, you phone is unique and has a unique I.D :)

Posted By: mike_the_sphinx on August 26th 2012 at 21:59:03

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Woah there... (NCFC) - Yellalee, Aug 26, 21:19:58
- "And I will get to the bottom of it" (NCFC) - Alan, Aug 26, 21:29:39
  - I've seen the list of suspects (NCFC) - inutero, Aug 26, 21:37:59
  - Bit late now. Had she kept the number and got the police involved then it is a piece of (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 21:30:59
    - Although I'm not saying its the case but . . . (NCFC) - Alan, Aug 26, 21:36:34
    - Up to 6 months. Depends upon the amount of memory space dedicated by an operator. (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 21:35:52
      - No. Six months. After which it must be deleted. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 21:41:46
        
        You are assuming who's jurasdiction? The ITU standard says "up to 6 months" (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 21:47:30
        
        And yes, all incoming and outgoing calls on the network. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:13:12
        
        EU. I had to build the functionality at my company. I work for a major telco (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:12:34
        
        Good for you SIH, me too and they aren't much bigger than the one I work for in legal :) (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:16:02
        
        Can't be much smaller (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:19:23
        
        Had to adjust from previous (2 years?) a year or two ago. In any case long enough for (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:21:06
        
        For sure, that info is almost certanly still available. If they send me her SP and number (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:23:31
    - DC Schteve (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 26, 21:32:46
      - Of course not. It still has a number (or MSISDN) and we can then trace at least which (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 21:43:12
        
        But we are not allowed to look at the info. Only the police and secret service are allowed (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 21:43:59
        
        But I can get a sim card for a fiver in hackney (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 26, 21:55:22
        
        Not as easy as postpaid that's for sure. But we'd know all the movements when the phone (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:11:47
        
        If no details are taken by the seller it can't. But... (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 21:59:03
        
        Indeed. Handset has an IMEI but we'd only know it if sim locked to us (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:15:11
        
        UK law requires at least a UK phone number when purchasing a SIM. (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:18:05
        
        What fixed ? Good rule. I saw Mexico required ID. Good law. Biggest prepaid users are (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:26:06
        
        Nope although they are a customer, or at least were until they sold out to France Telecom. (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:29:53
        
        I used to work for France telecom. Until we got invaded by the usual suspects. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 22:31:17
        
        I'm not even a coms guy by career history, God knows how I ended up doing this. (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:36:10
        
        Oh and SIM's are recorded so if it's sold by a flybe and he takes no details then (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 22:00:13
      - The SIMS not, but depends upon what info the seller takes. (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, Aug 26, 21:37:01
      - Probably used burners 'The Wire' style (n/m) (NCFC) - inutero, Aug 26, 21:35:09
        
        ROLF (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, Aug 26, 21:38:45
- very wrong if it came from us. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Aug 26, 21:26:41
  - How many of 'us' knew her moby number? (n/m) (NCFC) - harry boulders, Aug 26, 21:35:40
  - it was SCC doing a bit of banter (n/m) (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Aug 26, 21:27:24
    - Epic bants. (n/m) (NCFC) - Alan, Aug 26, 21:32:19
- I thought his marriage broke up the year before last (NCFC) - Waddockhunt, Aug 26, 21:24:44
  - out of order. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 26, 21:29:49
  - Yep, thought so (NCFC) - Waddockhunt, Aug 26, 21:28:36
    - That's last year (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 26, 21:31:48
      - Yes (NCFC) - Waddockhunt, Aug 26, 21:41:39

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