cases of real hardship must be dealt with

but that doesn't change the fact that there needs to be a fundamental reassessment of what we can expect the state to provide for us (much less than it currently provides). This follows as a simple matter of pounds and pence, but there is also a principled, moral justification for it - in essence, it is better for people to be free of a dependent relationship with the state

Posted By: paulg on June 25th 2012 at 13:11:05

Message Thread

RE: Cameron off his rocker (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 12:23:36
- I imagine the "debate" he's suggesting will be like all the others: (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:58:19
- He's dertermined to annoy everyone in society before he's done! (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, Jun 25, 12:54:19
- State spending (NCFC) - paulg, Jun 25, 12:50:45
  - 100% correct (n/m) (NCFC) - Hulk Rules, Jun 25, 18:01:11
  - Absolutely spot on! (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Jun 25, 15:11:41
  - ^^^ POTY!! (imo) (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Jun 25, 14:21:34
  - I think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who are (NCFC) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 25, 13:02:05
    - cases of real hardship must be dealt with (NCFC) - paulg, Jun 25, 13:11:05
      - This fundamental reassessment of 'under 25' seems to be totally arbitrary (n/m) (NCFC) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 25, 13:28:51
    - ^^^ THIS, VERY, VERY MUCH THIS ^^^^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 13:07:17
    - Also, why is he not addressing the scandalous cost of housing in the first place? (NCFC) - Hertz van Rental, Jun 25, 13:03:55
      - Presumably becuse that's not what Daily Mail readers want to hear (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 13:09:01
- nonsense - te fact we have been paying for the housing of people who want to leave home (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jun 25, 12:49:10
- He's done well to hold the nation's patience for this long (NCFC) - pants, Jun 25, 12:46:36
  - Cameron is a total fucking joke (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 25, 12:48:58
    - Agree, he's a wannabe Bliar w slightly less disgustingly effective schmoozy lying skills (n/m) (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jun 25, 12:57:14
      - Lack of lying skills is a bit of a handicap for a politician (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 13:02:13
- I'd imagine they dont give a shit. They probably think they should do what they do (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:35:08
  - wash cars (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 12:38:21
    - or do some gardening (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 12:51:54
      - or window cleaning (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 13:04:26
- they could get a job? (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 12:25:47
  - Really? I thought they were chucking loads of them out on to the dole (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:30:45
    - they are having a sort out (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 12:37:10
      - Don't think they'd take me (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Jun 25, 12:38:13
        
        oh well (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jun 25, 12:39:17
    - They are (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 12:32:30
  - easier said than done (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 12:30:13
- I guess the answer to your questions would be, they would lose their benefits... (n/m) (NCFC) - Vivid Data Shark, Jun 25, 12:24:59
  - and so be made homeless (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Jun 25, 12:29:50
    - ...when the charitable sector would take over and look after them (NCFC) - Old Man, Jun 25, 12:31:19

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