Euro 2012 draw - UEFA f**kery
As we weren't in Euro 2008 you may not have noticed that the draw was manipulated in such a way to ensure that, should they qualify from their pools, the hosts (Austria and Switzerland) would continue to play in their own country up to and including the semi-finals.
This manipulation, which will doubtless be repeated for the joint hosts in 2012 creates one, particularly annoying side-effect. In short it means there are (to all intents and purposes) two separate tournaments going on in different countries with the winners of each meeting in the final. It means that, no matter where a team finishes in their pool, they remain in the same half of the draw and the same country, and cannot move from one half to the other as always happens when only one country hosts.
The knock-on effect of that is that a team can face opponents they played in the pool stage again in the semi-final, which is exactly what happened in 08. The semi-finals - Germany v Turkey and Spain v Russia - were repeats of pool games that had already taken place. Very hard on Russia, obvously, who had to play Spain twice to even make the final!
Five games to get to the showpiece with a very good chance of two of them being against the same team? Silly. (And of course... neither Austria nor Switzerland qualified for the latter stages).
Coincidentally, Turkey also suffered this fate in 2002 when the World Cup was co-hosted. They were forced to play Brazil in the pool and the semi-finals.
What's that? You don't care? Well it irritates me (a bit) anyway.
Posted By: norway on November 16th 2011 at 15:40:46
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- Euro 2012 draw - UEFA fuckery (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:40:46
- Turkey were not in Germany's group (Other Football) - lurd, Nov 16, 17:45:08
- Can't wait for the draw (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Nov 16, 17:03:47
- Lech Walesa is a cunt (n/m) (Other Football) - King, Nov 16, 19:00:55
- Just wait for WC2014 (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Nov 16, 16:57:07
- VVVV wrong place! VVVV (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 18:25:24
- Sorry (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 18:24:54
- And the ball will move funny (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Nov 16, 17:00:24
- we get robbed every tournament (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 17:03:58
- what did the post do to rob us in 1990? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 16, 17:22:36
- blocked the ball (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 17:28:42
- no i got that wrong (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 17:12:14
- what did the post do to rob us in 1990? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 16, 17:22:36
- we get robbed every tournament (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 17:03:58
- What happens if both are knocked out in group stages? (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Nov 16, 15:45:56
- The Germans win (n/m) (Other Football) - TransitVanBeethoven, Nov 16, 15:58:49
- your head falls off (n/m) (Other Football) - Huge Small, Nov 16, 15:47:51
- Nothing! (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:47:20
- Poland and Ukraine isn't it? I bet at least one of them doesn't qualify (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Nov 16, 15:51:06
- Well imagine a group of (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:54:58
- Germany will win the fucker whatever happens imo (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Nov 16, 15:56:08
- Well imagine a group of (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:54:58
- Poland and Ukraine isn't it? I bet at least one of them doesn't qualify (n/m) (Other Football) - Only1Doherty, Nov 16, 15:51:06
- fantastic post tbf (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 15:45:17
- No-one makes a big deal of it (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:48:00
- and it's prob too late to save the draw now (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 15:50:07
- It's bound to happen (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:52:00
- Sorry.. scratch Germany for Holland (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:53:23
- try repeating it when England get beaten twice by Germany (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 16:12:45
- Can't happen (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 16:32:01
- Spain then (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 16:41:40
- You're absolutely right (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 16:53:32
- Spain then (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 16:41:40
- Can't happen (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 16:32:01
- try repeating it when England get beaten twice by Germany (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 16, 16:12:45
- Sorry.. scratch Germany for Holland (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:53:23
- It's bound to happen (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:52:00
- and it's prob too late to save the draw now (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 16, 15:50:07
- No-one makes a big deal of it (Other Football) - norway, Nov 16, 15:48:00
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