would have been a massive struggle to get picked

if he stayed in that shape because it meant he'd play poorly. and lambert isn't afraid to drop players who play poorly. just look at surman, martin and de laet. holt forced his way back in by giving great performances from off the bench after getting dropped anyway.

Posted By: 1 5CC on November 15th 2011 at 21:23:52

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England playing well, Bobby Z great hold up play... (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:45:12
- we do look class (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:46:55
  - but then you claimed Holty was finished as well (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 15, 20:50:02
    - at the end of the day (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:20:47
      - sorted himself out after causing Chelsea numerous problems at theirs? (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:22:33
        
        terry has struggled all season (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:26:19
        
        Not just Terry, Chelsea (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:29:12
        
        they've only kept 2 clean sheets this season (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:30:45
        
        oh and he's captaining England tonight (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:29:31
        
        still shit tbf (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:31:02
    - i never said he was finished at all (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:52:26
      - "in his condition" (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:03:57
        
        well that version of holt wasn't an EPL player (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:05:47
        
        They're actually the same person and same player (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:12:12
        
        not the same player carrying 10 FEWER kilos! (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:14:23
        
        yes the same player (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:15:23
        
        no a completely different player (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:18:19
        
        if you'd said physically he wasnt in the right condition for the EPL then fair enough... (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:13:45
        
        no i've been proved spot on (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:17:01
        
        you'll never get out of this one son (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:20:59
        
        i was spot on as has been explained (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:25:03
        
        this (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:21:37
        
        so Lambert wouldn't have played him again if he hadn't lost the weight? (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:19:53
        
        would have been a massive struggle to get picked (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:23:52
        
        did he lose the weight overnight? (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:28:05
        
        no it was a gradual process (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:34:25
        
        getting pointless this (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:46:34
        
        imagine having to make that choice (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 15, 22:09:19
        
        no backtracking here (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:48:42
        
        plus not my fault people can't understand context (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 22:06:37
        
        open goal lol (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:41:46
        
        also that sunderland game (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:44:45
        
        not how I remember it, Vaughan forced off, Holt on his own up front (Other Football) - samcd84, Nov 15, 21:50:00
        
        it seems that one average game at the start of the season (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:13:21
      - you so did. you deffo called him fat, fucking useless and shit on here (Other Football) - Tombs, Nov 15, 20:57:05
        
        i didn't, however that sums up his early performances quite well! (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:58:41
        
        1 half of that awful wba partnership has been shipped out already too (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:59:33
        
        idiot (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:01:45
        
        they were so clueless that game (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:02:44
        
        whatever (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:05:13
        
        my betfair account suggests otherwise (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:07:01
        
        roffle (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 21:08:12
        
        i left them under the bins after i had a rummage (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 21:09:28
    - Rooney is massively over rated. FACT. (n/m) (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:50:41
      - He is (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 15, 20:52:00
        
        We are a better team without him though (n/m) (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:53:27
        
        he's good for man u (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:53:14
        
        never sticks to the tactics and his position when he plays for England (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, Nov 15, 21:34:33
        
        Both of you are right (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 15, 20:55:06
        
        Rodwell is the future, he will be class for England. (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:56:41
        
        as soon i saw the teamsheet on saturday (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:57:49
        
        Rodwell's certainly quality, Wilshere will probably be the lynchpin though (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Nov 15, 21:00:13
        
        he should be able to play with young (n/m) (Other Football) - 1 5CC, Nov 15, 20:56:37
  - Bang on mike, we are actually playing as a team. Look good. (n/m) (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:49:14
- rolf (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 15, 20:45:28
  - Very under rated player. (n/m) (Other Football) - Mark Barham, Nov 15, 20:46:37

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