agree its a global problem.....

but made worse in THIS country by the uncontrolled spending of the previous government, who were only growing the debt. At least this government are trying to do something to stem the flow, despite it hurting most public sectors, and quite a few private ones as well. Thing is, if the country didnt change coarse, and stayed with labour, we'd be much further down the line of greece, portugal, spain, ireland etc.

Its tin-hats time, but I wish people would look a it further back than bad old tory cameron who is currwently seen as the cause of the problem. Bsically, many NHS hospitals have wasted far too much money, have had far too much fat, far too much waste, for far too ling, whilst giving adequate healthcare at best. Its about time it was revolutionised, and this finacial crisis may just result in leaner, better healthcare for all. Unless socialist views are SO indoctrinated that people cant see past that.

Posted By: Cheltenham_Canary on November 10th 2011 at 17:00:34

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Andy Burnham is a ridiculous 2 faced cunt (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 15:46:28
- He's quite well licked up here (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:20:26
  - *liked*, although he may be well "licked", I don't know. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:21:13
- i don't think he is logged on (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 10, 16:04:11
  - might be one of the 49 'guests'? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 10, 16:06:28
    - good point (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Nov 10, 16:07:18
- let me guess....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 15:48:35
  - here's one just for you then CC (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 16:20:35
    - "Private-sector managers would be drafted in to replace....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 16:42:37
      - Trouble is, most private sector bosses are shit too (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:46:46
        
        no, not really......... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 16:52:31
        
        i work in the private sector and my boss is an incompetant fool (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 17:00:17
        
        Ha she been "promoted to the level of his own incompetence"? That's (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:06:16
        
        there'll always be exceptions.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 17:01:41
        
        Except that they're money in this case is the governments. Admittedly they want to keep as (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:54:50
        
        "before it goes tits up?!" (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 17:03:56
        
        it is not already fucking tits up at all (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 17:13:41
        
        it is in debt to the NHS (General Chat) - CWC, Nov 10, 17:22:27
        
        Indeed - (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:23:31
        
        Christ "Major", I'd forgotten that tit. Major, Blair, Brown - spot the difference (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:17:40
        
        It's bust because the cost of decent healthcare is now beyond the (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:10:08
    - Thing is though, they WERE Tory's only in disguise - a pretty feeble disguise at that (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:24:23
      - 'were'? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 16:28:53
        
        Yes, they are no longer in power (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:34:34
        
        the Tories don't stop being Tories when they lose power (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 16:40:45
        
        Yes I know, see what you mean. Trouble is Ralpg, any party slightly to the left of right (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:42:43
        
        unelectable, for a good reason tho, (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 16:47:18
        
        Blair and Brown followed traditional Tory economic policy (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 16:54:20
        
        agree its a global problem..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 17:00:34
        
        "the uncontrolled spending" that was never, ever challenged by the then opposition. (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:01:58
        
        "unchallenged?" (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 17:06:06
        
        It probably did but not the increases in budget. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:10:50
        
        This was the ecomomic policy that destroyed our industry, saying we were (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:58:11
        
        ^^^ that's me mixing up structual deficit for debt though (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 16:55:43
        
        Doesn't structural deficit eventually beget debt? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 17:24:59
      - Yeah I know, *apostrophe violation* (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 10, 16:25:03
  - one is to his statement about his on the official Labour website (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 15:56:06
  - Here, have one from the Independent (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 10, 15:49:52
    - "A private company was today given the final go-ahead to take over the running... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 15:54:04
      - Yeah, just the privatisation of the NHS. No biggie (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 10, 15:55:33
        
        as long as the money is spent in effective ways and not wasted like it has been (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 16:02:22
        
        Because they will rob us blind for their own profit and don't give a shit about best care (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 10, 16:07:28
        
        speculation at its best......... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Nov 10, 16:45:32
        
        We should have a whip round for a wrath hospital. (General Chat) - tudders, Nov 10, 16:09:32
        
        and use it whenever I need to, obviously. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Nov 10, 16:10:03
        
        and it is the slow creep of privitisation (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 10, 16:09:18
        
        and privatisation (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Nov 10, 16:09:36
- can some please tweet that message ^^^ to the cunt for me please (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Nov 10, 15:47:29

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