I think you're missing the point

The problem lies with employers preventing it, not doctors diagnosing and treating it. As I say, presenteeism through stress is as great a problem as absenteeism, and that doesn't involve doctors at all.

Posted By: King on October 26th 2011 at 13:14:44

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Tories showing their true colours? (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 10:58:27
- This is such a minefield (General Chat) - King, Oct 26, 12:41:58
  - Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:54:47
  - stress is such a difficult one, some people really are suffering from stress (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 12:52:38
    - Stress is for wimps (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 26, 13:02:37
      - tad surprised you've written that OG (General Chat) - pants, Oct 26, 15:05:40
      - Top trolling (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 13:15:36
        
        Bollox, I hope it wasn't trolling or I've been whooshed big time (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:17:21
        
        :) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 26, 13:23:19
      - You cklearly don't know anyone who has suffered real streaa OG, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:14:56
        
        no buuibt mi do kno some epoeplpe wh can type (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 26, 13:24:18
        
        pardon? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 15:56:15
    - ^ Paxmanface. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 26, 12:55:36
    - Thanks for clearing that up. (n/m) (General Chat) - King, Oct 26, 12:54:40
      - Doctors will sign people off very easily. (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:01:06
        
        I think you're missing the point (General Chat) - King, Oct 26, 13:14:44
        
        yes, but this is made up fake stress, after a falling out at work (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:17:10
        
        falling out with a line manager that you know doesn't like you can be a very stressful thi (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 26, 13:25:31
        
        Tribuneral. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 26, 13:20:06
        
        You'd have to be very very depressed to want a holiday in Kenya though. (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:18:56
        
        I want a holiday in Kenya, and I am not depressed (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 26, 13:25:30
        
        was wimpy management, that is for sure. (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:19:42
        
        Witchcraft is the bollox - the future of medicine in this country (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:03:59
        
        ^^^ diversionary tactics ^^^ (General Chat) - Old Git, Oct 26, 13:03:31
        
        Fair enough isn't it ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 26, 13:11:55
        
        Although one shouldn't underestimate the power of placebo and the cost (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 26, 13:13:12
        
        Whatever works, works. Doesn't matter how. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:15:33
        
        give 'em some suger pills and send them on their way. (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:19:09
        
        just sayin, not all doctors are kosher or able... (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:06:52
        
        They should be sacked then (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:08:18
        
        sacking a government worker... (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:12:13
        
        GPs aren't employed by the government (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 26, 13:21:30
        
        ok, kill them then (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:13:23
        
        Agreed, though it is as bad as racism in my book. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:04:48
    - Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:54:01
- pffft... we got a lazy employee here on supposed sick (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 11:22:19
  - What's she supposed to do if off with stress? Stay under the stairs cupboard? (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:19:02
    - Get an alternative job more suited to her fragile personality and stop mugging her (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 26, 13:01:30
      - I didn't read owt that suggested she has a fragile personality (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 13:14:38
      - can't see the problem. If she wants a deal, just do a compromise agreement. (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:13:00
    - the latest sicknote is for exhaustion... (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 12:36:01
      - Again, you can sack people for poor sick record - breach of contract (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:39:15
        
        small company, no HR dept (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 12:47:45
        
        Plenty HR Company's out there who work on a consultancy basis (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:53:11
        
        not much we can do while the sick notes keep coming.. (assuming one arrives now) (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 12:54:58
        
        Yes there is - breach of contract. Do you think people can get paid forever (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 12:59:22
        
        no idea what the company policy is, not sure we even have one (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 13:02:37
        
        Sounds like your company needs to get it's act together. Any company, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:07:48
        
        Not that straight forward. A contractor that attends the same place of work, (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 26, 13:16:35
        
        Depends on the terms they are taken on surely (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:20:40
        
        Nope, statute. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 26, 13:23:23
  - Article in news yesterday that 13% (THIRTEEN) of all Dutch employees suffered (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 26, 11:33:51
    - Smoke-out more like. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 26, 13:02:34
  - sounds broadly similar to a woman at Mrs S's work (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 26, 11:27:19
- "Downing Street says changes to unfair dismissal rules are "unlikely". (n/m) (General Chat) - Duck, Oct 26, 11:05:45
  - Even if they don't get away with that, they've already done this... (General Chat) - woody, Oct 26, 11:18:45
    - There's a surprise. Land owners and large super farms are some of the Torys (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 26, 13:22:07
  - kind of begs the question as to why go to the expense of a report (n/m) (General Chat) - South_West_Canary, Oct 26, 11:11:46
    - because the economy is about to go into recession and the report was meant to be about get (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 26, 11:22:23
      - The front page of the report should clearly state the terms of reference (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Oct 26, 12:41:23
      - ting? (General Chat) - pants, Oct 26, 11:48:23
        
        Wagwan? (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 26, 12:03:45
      - sacking crap staff members is incredibly difficult in this country (General Chat) - phrankin, Oct 26, 11:23:20
        
        How do you define 'crap'? (General Chat) - King, Oct 26, 12:43:59
        
        Not as hard as here. You have to ask permission from the council. The same (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 26, 11:36:43

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