he would say the difference is that there's actually evidence that he's right

and also that teaching people about science doesn't tend to make them commit crimes in the name of their beliefs etc etc

not saying he's right necessarily. Just that he would take strong issue with KDDDDDDD's live and let live philosophy. On the basis that it might not be the right path to a better world.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on October 25th 2011 at 15:49:45

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oh no (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:33:22
- You think that's bad... (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Oct 25, 17:27:11
  - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 17:41:53
  - Elevenarife (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 25, 17:29:16
    - I liked that too (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 17:30:45
- Can't stand radical atheists. Every bit as bad as raving fundamentalists of any religion (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 25, 17:17:46
  - ha ha, brilliant. I love it (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 17:36:16
- I don't understand why people get so worked up about how other people (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 25, 15:40:43
  - Metaphysics (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Oct 25, 16:13:45
    - Lifes too short. (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 25, 16:20:33
      - Not if you embrace the Lord, heathen (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 25, 16:25:59
        
        good point (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 16:27:53
        
        I'll ask him when I get up there (n/m) (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 25, 16:29:02
      - Absolutely, live and let live (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Oct 25, 16:23:06
        
        agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 16:55:57
  - I think that's what I just wanted to say really (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:49:53
    - wasn't finding an 'alien bible' how the mormons started? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 16:07:10
    - Was gonna say....chill, Winston (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:52:38
      - Well, it's a bit like Roeder innit :) (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:53:49
        
        Not really. I know Roeder exists and have evidence that he's shit. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:58:30
        
        ha ha (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 16:00:27
  - agreed, although at this point (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 15:47:01
    - But Dawkins is as bad an evangelist as the most mental religious nuts (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:47:32
      - He's such an arsehole. How dare he push reason and rational thinking down our throats. (General Chat) - mr chimp, Oct 25, 17:06:56
      - Well, he really isn't (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 15:53:49
        
        I mean, it's not like he stands on street corners, or knocks on doors etc (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 15:55:08
        
        those fuckers use megaphones and loudspeakers here (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 16:04:50
        
        In contrast though (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 16:02:51
        
        Oh don't get me wrong, the bloke you work with sounds tedious as anything (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:04:44
        
        That in general, is how I find it happens here (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 17:20:04
        
        He does the high-brow equivalent. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:59:09
        
        I wouldn't say that writing books evangelism really (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:01:09
        
        Especially books, documentaries etc which encourage people to think critically (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:03:11
        
        No but he does actively push atheism via methods your average Jehovah's Witness might if (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 16:05:01
        
        Well, they do have the Watchtower. I don't think he 'pushes' atheism in the same way as.. (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:07:36
        
        for example (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 16:09:18
        
        Would you describe that as evangelism though? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:12:43
        
        Although, thinking about it, that stunt was pretty close to what I would think of as (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Oct 25, 16:16:17
      - he would say the difference is that there's actually evidence that he's right (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 15:49:45
        
        Which is a very similar argument to a religious person. Which is why I prefer (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:52:16
        
        sounds a bit like me (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 16:06:53
        
        Ha ha, anyway, sorry guys, I just needed to let that out (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 17:46:45
      - as big, not as bad. He's actually very good at it (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:47:54
  - because religious people condescend to atheists as much as vice versa (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 15:44:59
    - ^^^what he said (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:47:05
      - Agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Oct 25, 15:53:28
      - I agree, I would obviously be just as pissed off if I was (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:52:50
        
        So you're more annoyed with the repetition than the subject ? I... (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:56:22
        
        well exactly, you're not going to change someone's belief system by going on about it (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 16:17:08
        
        yeah, totally. (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 16:11:32
- "team" (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 25, 15:38:08
- He is right though (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:34:46
  - It's not really the right and wrong, or who believes what (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:46:59
    - Sorry, meant it from a scientific point of view, Loretta. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:48:34
      - Loretta? (General Chat) - pants, Oct 25, 15:56:07
        
        uppercase FACT perhaps but definitely not lowercase fact (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 25, 16:29:25
        
        Loretta. As in you can't be a woman, and you can't have babies (where is it going to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 16:02:18
  - who?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 15:39:39
    - Bloke wot says God dunt exist (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:46:50
      - oh, I thought pants was referring to tweets by an NCFC player or summat (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 25, 15:56:48
  - Warm drinks is new to me though ! I know about Mormons and caffeine... (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:35:41
    - appears to be Mormons again (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 25, 15:39:49
      - Yeah, tea and coffee is wot I though, but I guess when they made the rules, they (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Oct 25, 15:46:35
        
        jizz starts out warm. Allegedly. Are Mormons allowed to gargle with it... (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 25, 17:24:17

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