dont forget, Roeder was pants at 3 other clubs as a manager

and one as an assistant. His reign at Newcastle seems ok.

And yes, they were expensive loans - premiership loans. Not Gunn style div 1 loans.

Posted By: phrankin on October 10th 2011 at 16:02:02

Message Thread

Hucks on Roeder (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:47:48
- At the end of the day, when all is said and done, to be fair, in all honesty (NCFC) - King, Oct 10, 12:50:24
- blub (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 12:44:08
- Has any footballer ever said Roeder is a nice man? (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 10, 12:15:17
  - No but they often sing his praises as a coach. (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:16:36
    - Basically his training initially improves teams and then (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:23:09
      - He needed investment for players he had previously, and ones to improve the team (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 13:28:51
        
        * some loans (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:34:39
        
        FFS when you put it like that.. (NCFC) - lurd, Oct 10, 14:00:32
        
        because like a good board should, they backed the manager and his judgement (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 15:34:53
        
        Sorry you are wrong (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:34:27
        
        This is all spin to me, believed by many (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 13:40:14
        
        Pants - I met Roeder a couple of times (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Oct 10, 14:27:47
        
        Its not spin - look at the players he signed on loan (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:41:35
        
        and the accounts - that there legal record of what was spent (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 13:59:27
        
        Those accounts represented loans brought in over a period of time (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:05:18
        
        Like I said above about spin (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:09:24
        
        13 loan signings in 14 months (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 14:14:14
        
        How many players did Gunn get in, in 5? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:22:30
        
        Leijer,McDonald, Shackell, A Lee, Mooney, Gow, Killen, Carney, Grounds (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:32:23
        
        Can't imagine that group commanded a great deal in wages or loan fees (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Oct 10, 15:01:05
        
        Noooooo, I'm not having that at all. No one ever batted an eyelid about loan costs (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 15:04:40
        
        "They're either the cheaper option, or they're not" = bullshit (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 15:32:59
        
        He wasn't (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 16:04:02
        
        Worthy spent almost as much as Roeder on loans, but he achieved success (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Oct 10, 15:18:57
        
        This is where I compare and contrast our board (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 15:36:33
        
        dont forget, Roeder was pants at 3 other clubs as a manager (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 16:02:02
        
        ya, the guy got 3 teams relegated... has many ex players saying he was a twot (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:51:55
        
        Personally, I will never forgive him for the disgraceful way he treated (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 14:51:19
    - Suppose you can't be blamed for relegation as a coach (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:18:41
      - Hahahaha. lol. You cling on to the fact that we were outside the bottom three when he was (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 12:25:44
        
        I think we were 4th bottom when he was given the chop (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:57:58
        
        We were 4th bottom and Donny below us had a game in hand, useless stat (n/m) (NCFC) - samcd84, Oct 10, 13:10:07
        
        which they subsequently won (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 10, 15:40:58
  - Iwan (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:15:47
- Hucks was on McVeigh and Butler discussing it this week: (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:03:24
- ^^^ this is how it starts (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 11:56:04
  - You don't speak to people like that, let alone infront of colleagues. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:59:34
    - I dunno, can't believe this is just a one off (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:04:38
      - Can there be only one cunt on the planet at a time ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 10, 13:19:10
    - I have heard other instances of him treating players like shit as well. (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Oct 10, 12:00:58
      - Next you'll be telling me players abuse referees (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:05:18
  - It was simple though, he was told to work hard and prove his fitness (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:57:54
    - "Roeder called him ?a has-been? in front of the rest of the team" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 12:00:22
      - I take your point about grown up conversation (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:02:29
        
        Is Roeder you're Dad? (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:07:34
        
        Urgh (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:09:21
        
        I know it took about 5 years for people to get over Iwan leaving (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:15:18
        
        Roeder had zero man management skills, and it was a good day when he was sacked -> FACT (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:55:27
        
        Ah yes. The one side of the argument defence. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 12:05:29
        
        tell you what though, if Roeder does do an autobiography, i'll read it (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 12:09:39
        
        um...... (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:13:07
- Will it ever end? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:55:58
- Was just reading that.....confirms what most of us thought at the time.... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Oct 10, 11:51:27
  - ^^ This is how it starts. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:51:42
    - How what starts? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Oct 10, 11:53:51
      - It. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:55:17
        
        It started with a this (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 10, 13:08:58

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