Hahahaha. lol. You cling on to the fact that we were outside the bottom three when he was

sacked. Your intransigence and failure to admit you are wrong on this issue fascinates me. We were plummeting like a stone under him and the atmosphere was as low as I can remember until the board compounded it and we actually went down with Gunn at the helm.

We were going down under Roeder make no mistake about that. He'd laid the foundations with help from Peter the pointer.

Just admit that even if it's just to yourself.

Posted By: jafski on October 10th 2011 at 12:25:44

Message Thread

Hucks on Roeder (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:47:48
- At the end of the day, when all is said and done, to be fair, in all honesty (NCFC) - King, Oct 10, 12:50:24
- blub (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 12:44:08
- Has any footballer ever said Roeder is a nice man? (NCFC) - duke of york, Oct 10, 12:15:17
  - No but they often sing his praises as a coach. (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:16:36
    - Basically his training initially improves teams and then (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:23:09
      - He needed investment for players he had previously, and ones to improve the team (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 13:28:51
        
        * some loans (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:34:39
        
        FFS when you put it like that.. (NCFC) - lurd, Oct 10, 14:00:32
        
        because like a good board should, they backed the manager and his judgement (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 15:34:53
        
        Sorry you are wrong (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:34:27
        
        This is all spin to me, believed by many (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 13:40:14
        
        Pants - I met Roeder a couple of times (NCFC) - KentonCanary, Oct 10, 14:27:47
        
        Its not spin - look at the players he signed on loan (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Oct 10, 13:41:35
        
        and the accounts - that there legal record of what was spent (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 13:59:27
        
        Those accounts represented loans brought in over a period of time (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:05:18
        
        Like I said above about spin (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:09:24
        
        13 loan signings in 14 months (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 14:14:14
        
        How many players did Gunn get in, in 5? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:22:30
        
        Leijer,McDonald, Shackell, A Lee, Mooney, Gow, Killen, Carney, Grounds (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 14:32:23
        
        Can't imagine that group commanded a great deal in wages or loan fees (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Oct 10, 15:01:05
        
        Noooooo, I'm not having that at all. No one ever batted an eyelid about loan costs (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 15:04:40
        
        "They're either the cheaper option, or they're not" = bullshit (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 15:32:59
        
        He wasn't (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 16:04:02
        
        Worthy spent almost as much as Roeder on loans, but he achieved success (NCFC) - Common Sense Police, Oct 10, 15:18:57
        
        This is where I compare and contrast our board (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 15:36:33
        
        dont forget, Roeder was pants at 3 other clubs as a manager (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 16:02:02
        
        ya, the guy got 3 teams relegated... has many ex players saying he was a twot (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 13:51:55
        
        Personally, I will never forgive him for the disgraceful way he treated (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 10, 14:51:19
    - Suppose you can't be blamed for relegation as a coach (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:18:41
      - Hahahaha. lol. You cling on to the fact that we were outside the bottom three when he was (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 12:25:44
        
        I think we were 4th bottom when he was given the chop (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:57:58
        
        We were 4th bottom and Donny below us had a game in hand, useless stat (n/m) (NCFC) - samcd84, Oct 10, 13:10:07
        
        which they subsequently won (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 10, 15:40:58
  - Iwan (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:15:47
- Hucks was on McVeigh and Butler discussing it this week: (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:03:24
- ^^^ this is how it starts (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 11:56:04
  - You don't speak to people like that, let alone infront of colleagues. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:59:34
    - I dunno, can't believe this is just a one off (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:04:38
      - Can there be only one cunt on the planet at a time ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 10, 13:19:10
    - I have heard other instances of him treating players like shit as well. (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Oct 10, 12:00:58
      - Next you'll be telling me players abuse referees (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:05:18
  - It was simple though, he was told to work hard and prove his fitness (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:57:54
    - "Roeder called him ?a has-been? in front of the rest of the team" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 12:00:22
      - I take your point about grown up conversation (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:02:29
        
        Is Roeder you're Dad? (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:07:34
        
        Urgh (NCFC) - Tim Westwood, Oct 10, 12:09:21
        
        I know it took about 5 years for people to get over Iwan leaving (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:15:18
        
        Roeder had zero man management skills, and it was a good day when he was sacked -> FACT (NCFC) - phrankin, Oct 10, 12:55:27
        
        Ah yes. The one side of the argument defence. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 12:05:29
        
        tell you what though, if Roeder does do an autobiography, i'll read it (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 10, 12:09:39
        
        um...... (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 12:13:07
- Will it ever end? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 10, 11:55:58
- Was just reading that.....confirms what most of us thought at the time.... (NCFC) - Kirrie, Oct 10, 11:51:27
  - ^^ This is how it starts. (n/m) (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:51:42
    - How what starts? (n/m) (NCFC) - Kirrie, Oct 10, 11:53:51
      - It. (NCFC) - jafski, Oct 10, 11:55:17
        
        It started with a this (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Oct 10, 13:08:58

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