That's interesting - the second half of the 19th century is fascinating.

When Louis Napol?on (Napol?on III) becomes Emperor and the French build an empire in Africa, redesign Paris to make it like no other city (for purely ideological reasons), develop a modern state infrastructure, and then loses the Franco-Prussian War, prompting Germany to unify as a nation state.

So then you get the Third Republic (1871-1940), the crushing of the Commune of Paris (the first ever practical attempt at some form of 'socialism'), the Dreyfus Affair, the World Exhibitions and the Eiffel Tower, the invention of cinema, the Olympic Games, etc etc etc. The socio-political history is ceaselessly fascinating - decent book by Robert Tombs called France 1814-1914 ...

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on October 2nd 2005 at 23:48:07

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PK - take no notice buddy (General Chat) - Suggy, Oct 2, 22:40:17
- Good of you to take it him at face value (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 2, 23:07:50
  - I'm a moderate... (General Chat) - Mick_Jagger, Oct 2, 23:12:02
- Does PK stand for Politik Kaiser? (n/m) (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 2, 22:55:16
  - no, i think it's code for (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 22:57:54
    - LOL! Stoopish.... (General Chat) - Mick_Jagger, Oct 2, 23:10:02
    - Ahhhh... (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 2, 22:59:05
- I'll be honest with you... (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 2, 22:46:32
- oh he isn't....on my MSN and has been for a few months (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 22:45:24
  - Indeed, i love to hear the oppostion angle on things. (n/m) (General Chat) - Mick_Jagger, Oct 2, 23:12:30
  - See, I think that's a really good thing (General Chat) - Suggy, Oct 2, 22:47:54
    - Haha, I'm discussing politics all the time! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:10:22
    - well i went to university and specialised in 19th c (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 22:54:05
      - Fascinating stuff, isn't it? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:11:59
        
        Wow - don't think I've ever heard of him to be honest (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 2, 23:26:42
        
        indeed it is (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:18:49
        
        Salisbury - early 19th century? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:22:38
        
        nope late 19th century (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:28:49
        
        That's better - the Wikipedia entry was a bit lame, really. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:32:13
        
        19th century was brilliant, deffo (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:36:08
        
        There's a real culture against having intellectuals in politics, I think that's why. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:40:05
        
        briefly, the revolutions (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:43:40
        
        That's interesting - the second half of the 19th century is fascinating. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:48:07
        
        The wide boulevards of Paris were designed specifically to allow troops easy (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 2, 23:51:41
        
        ahhh i remember (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:50:28
        
        Napol?on III was a weapons-grade imbecile. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 2, 23:53:32
        
        ahhh bismarck.... (General Chat) - Stoopish, Oct 2, 23:56:08
        
        Not to mention the carnage that followed it - the Kaiser's lot were complete cretins! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 3, 00:08:07
    - hee hee - creative use of the word "rarely" there ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Suggy, Oct 2, 22:49:29
    - Same here... (General Chat) - iwans_ex_dentist, Oct 2, 22:48:51

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