Whereas Stoke fans

hung onto the belief that an over physical approach didn't necessarily mean they were more likely to break the legs of the opposition, which isn't true.

Shawcross flew into Ramsey, and at a certain point you're no longer in control of the consequences when you tackle with such momentum.

It's why I have sympathy for Martin Taylor but not for Shawcross.

Posted By: samcd84 on August 10th 2011 at 11:23:09

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Matthew Upson gone to Stoke then... (Other Football) - woody, Aug 10, 09:49:41
- Decent Defenders In Their Squad... (Other Football) - Martin Peters, Aug 10, 09:57:51
  - I wondered why they needed him, as they had already signed Woodgate (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Aug 10, 10:00:09
    - Anyone who signed Woodgate was always going to need another defender (Other Football) - mr chimp, Aug 10, 10:33:15
      - Instead of getting 2 expensive players with questionable injuries (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:23:05
        
        I suppose they are both on free transfers (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Aug 10, 11:32:02
        
        Yeah agree about Woodgate, really solid (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:34:15
        
        In short, why didn't they just put a decent bid in for Alex at Chelsea (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:24:15
        
        probably on 60-70k (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 11:25:38
        
        true (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:27:57
    - Collins Can Play Full Back (Other Football) - Martin Peters, Aug 10, 10:12:06
      - Arsenal linked with Shawcross? (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 10:45:02
        
        *Yes, He Crocked Ramsey, Didn't He? (Other Football) - Martin Peters, Aug 10, 10:47:23
        
        yep, there's still bad blood there (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 10:57:46
        
        The stupid thing about it is, it wasn't that bad a tackle, and he played the ball (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:05:20
        
        It was an unfortunate tackle, and he didnt play the ball (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 11:08:44
        
        I remember having money on a red in that game (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:19:04
        
        Wenger, made it 10 x worse for Shawcross by berating him publically (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Aug 10, 11:33:32
        
        Who could ever forget Grimandi (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:35:01
        
        Grimandi is up there as 1 of the worst players ever to play for Arsenal (Other Football) - DiscoDaleGordon, Aug 10, 11:36:26
        
        and Flamini (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:35:23
        
        for example (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:37:41
        
        Whereas Stoke fans (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 11:23:09
        
        See, for me, that's why it happened, cos Ramsey flies into the tackle too (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:26:40
        
        We've certainly see this tackle differently I think (Other Football) - samcd84, Aug 10, 11:28:28
        
        Yeah we are. It was just unfortunate imo (Other Football) - pants, Aug 10, 11:32:56
- decent signing for them (Other Football) - phrankin, Aug 10, 09:53:53

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