Ok, let's go through this one point at a time

1. No one has called the police fascist scum who murder people in custody.

What people have said is that 333 people died in just over 10 years in police custody and no one was ever found responsible for those deaths.

2. Many people claim the police are being *insufficiently* violent. I'm suggesting that their lack of action thus far may be linked to police cuts. Hardly a radical train of thought.

3. No one is talking about any conspiracy. See above. Government services and departments are fighting for funds and to avoid cuts - they do this in many ways.

4. I see the world objectively. It seems like you're applying your own pesonal criteria here because your sister is in the police

Posted By: Worzel Scrimmage on August 9th 2011 at 18:32:14

Message Thread

"there is no evidence that Mark Duggan opened fire at police officers before he was shot d (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:28:18
- the family said in a statement they are gutted (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:56:29
- did the police ever say he did? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:29:56
  - "why should they wait to be shot at first?" (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 9, 17:55:44
  - they claimed a bullet from that gun was lodged in one of their radios (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:31:02
    - actually rereading news reports it seems the IPCC never claimed the bullet in the police r (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:36:59
      - exactly (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:42:02
      - they insinuated that it did (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:38:52
        
        did they, or did reporters? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:43:44
        
        that would mean missing an opportunity to slag off the police though (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:44:41
        
        I'm not saying there was a cover up, but the suggestion in all reports I read was (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:48:18
        
        reports meaning gossip (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:53:26
        
        reports meaning news reports sourced from the fucking police you tit (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:54:16
        
        can't say i saw that! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:57:20
        
        as you don't like reading by your own admission, that's hardly surprising (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:58:56
        
        i like reading news and sport tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:59:37
        
        the usual slagging off of the police isn't gonna get much sympathy right now (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:40:08
        
        Surely a riot police officer knows what he is getting himself into? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:41:45
        
        there's no such thing (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:43:24
        
        Is she fit? (General Chat) - Huge 5mal1, Aug 9, 17:50:54
        
        ha. Sod off (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:53:45
        
        It just reminded me of when i got in trouble once (General Chat) - Huge 5mal1, Aug 9, 18:05:39
        
        i doubt any of them expected this (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:43:10
        
        because this is the first ever riot in this country? (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:47:59
        
        and the police say they are the worst riots in living memory (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:32:57
        
        just because they rioted in the 80s (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:51:11
        
        lol, the police have more powers now than they've had for decades (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:00:35
        
        they can't touch a criminal (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:04:13
        
        the crimimals hold all the aces (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:04:31
        
        sure. And your point is? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:50:34
        
        I'm not "slagging off the police" ffs (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:57:06
        
        come home and have a riot then! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:57:49
        
        don't need to, there'll be some around the corner from me later tonight (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:59:58
        
        so what do they do in chile (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:02:28
        
        the police act like that for normal protest rallies (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:07:41
        
        you are blaming these riots on the police?! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:09:08
        
        don't be silly, I'm just saying that strong-arm tactics often backfire (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:12:01
        
        well soft as fuck tactics don't seem to be doing much good (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:13:05
        
        The met police approach has been bizarrely hands off up to now (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:16:46
        
        well that's rubbish tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:19:03
        
        brilliant though (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 18:23:34
        
        Ok, let's go through this one point at a time (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:32:14
        
        Not remotely. The police fuck loads of stuff up (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 19:19:48
        
        I'm not assuming that, I said it was a suspicion and it still is (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:28:27
        
        It's a suspicion by you. By no-one else at all, amongst the acres of opinion written about (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 19:32:18
        
        not at all, many are pointing to the link between cuts and the failure to control riots (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:39:11
        
        and it's not exactly assuming the worst of the police is it? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:46:25
        
        dear oh dear! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 19:42:15
        
        go away scc, the big boys are talking (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:45:31
        
        i hope he makes you see sense! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 19:58:27
        
        I'm paid to read between the lines and write down my opinion (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 20:16:28
        
        i just genuinely cannot understand it (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:24:51
        
        you have all the answers apparently, so why then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:21:55
        
        because they're just carrying batons and shields (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:24:04
        
        gotta go out now but what on earth has class got to do (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:56:43
        
        oh sorry! (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:58:22
    - i thought they said a bullet (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:32:55
      - There's a due process for shooting people (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:36:02
        
        i'd say it's very rare tho (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:41:27
        
        Bit of a worrying stat is since 1998 there has been 333 deaths in custody,officers charged (General Chat) - DrDublin, Aug 9, 17:41:19
        
        that stat is wrong - 13 charged, none found guilty (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:45:11
        
        True, still doesn't add up though......... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Aug 9, 17:47:57
        
        there's too little information in that report to say much either way (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:53:33
        
        precisely Dubbers, they act with virtual impunity so giving them a license to kill (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:43:34
        
        some people just want to slag off the police (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:44:59
        
        *not supposedly....* (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:43:52
        
        over a 1000 since 1990 (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:42:24

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