did they, or did reporters?

i'm not seeing the complete f**k up and lies that there was after the de Menezes shooting in all this

that doesn't mean that there hasn't been a police cock-up in all this, just that it'd be wrong to go around shouting 'cover up' where all there is is confusion while facts are established

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on August 9th 2011 at 17:43:44

Message Thread

"there is no evidence that Mark Duggan opened fire at police officers before he was shot d (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:28:18
- the family said in a statement they are gutted (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:56:29
- did the police ever say he did? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:29:56
  - "why should they wait to be shot at first?" (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Aug 9, 17:55:44
  - they claimed a bullet from that gun was lodged in one of their radios (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:31:02
    - actually rereading news reports it seems the IPCC never claimed the bullet in the police r (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:36:59
      - exactly (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:42:02
      - they insinuated that it did (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:38:52
        
        did they, or did reporters? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:43:44
        
        that would mean missing an opportunity to slag off the police though (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:44:41
        
        I'm not saying there was a cover up, but the suggestion in all reports I read was (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:48:18
        
        reports meaning gossip (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:53:26
        
        reports meaning news reports sourced from the fucking police you tit (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:54:16
        
        can't say i saw that! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:57:20
        
        as you don't like reading by your own admission, that's hardly surprising (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:58:56
        
        i like reading news and sport tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:59:37
        
        the usual slagging off of the police isn't gonna get much sympathy right now (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:40:08
        
        Surely a riot police officer knows what he is getting himself into? (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:41:45
        
        there's no such thing (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:43:24
        
        Is she fit? (General Chat) - Huge 5mal1, Aug 9, 17:50:54
        
        ha. Sod off (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:53:45
        
        It just reminded me of when i got in trouble once (General Chat) - Huge 5mal1, Aug 9, 18:05:39
        
        i doubt any of them expected this (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:43:10
        
        because this is the first ever riot in this country? (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:47:59
        
        and the police say they are the worst riots in living memory (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:32:57
        
        just because they rioted in the 80s (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:51:11
        
        lol, the police have more powers now than they've had for decades (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:00:35
        
        they can't touch a criminal (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:04:13
        
        the crimimals hold all the aces (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:04:31
        
        sure. And your point is? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 17:50:34
        
        I'm not "slagging off the police" ffs (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:57:06
        
        come home and have a riot then! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:57:49
        
        don't need to, there'll be some around the corner from me later tonight (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:59:58
        
        so what do they do in chile (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:02:28
        
        the police act like that for normal protest rallies (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:07:41
        
        you are blaming these riots on the police?! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:09:08
        
        don't be silly, I'm just saying that strong-arm tactics often backfire (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:12:01
        
        well soft as fuck tactics don't seem to be doing much good (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:13:05
        
        The met police approach has been bizarrely hands off up to now (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:16:46
        
        well that's rubbish tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:19:03
        
        brilliant though (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 18:23:34
        
        Ok, let's go through this one point at a time (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:32:14
        
        Not remotely. The police fuck loads of stuff up (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 19:19:48
        
        I'm not assuming that, I said it was a suspicion and it still is (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:28:27
        
        It's a suspicion by you. By no-one else at all, amongst the acres of opinion written about (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 9, 19:32:18
        
        not at all, many are pointing to the link between cuts and the failure to control riots (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:39:11
        
        and it's not exactly assuming the worst of the police is it? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:46:25
        
        dear oh dear! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 19:42:15
        
        go away scc, the big boys are talking (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 19:45:31
        
        i hope he makes you see sense! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 19:58:27
        
        I'm paid to read between the lines and write down my opinion (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 20:16:28
        
        i just genuinely cannot understand it (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:24:51
        
        you have all the answers apparently, so why then? (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 18:21:55
        
        because they're just carrying batons and shields (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 18:24:04
        
        gotta go out now but what on earth has class got to do (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:56:43
        
        oh sorry! (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:58:22
    - i thought they said a bullet (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:32:55
      - There's a due process for shooting people (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:36:02
        
        i'd say it's very rare tho (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:41:27
        
        Bit of a worrying stat is since 1998 there has been 333 deaths in custody,officers charged (General Chat) - DrDublin, Aug 9, 17:41:19
        
        that stat is wrong - 13 charged, none found guilty (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:45:11
        
        True, still doesn't add up though......... (General Chat) - DrDublin, Aug 9, 17:47:57
        
        there's too little information in that report to say much either way (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Aug 9, 17:53:33
        
        precisely Dubbers, they act with virtual impunity so giving them a license to kill (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:43:34
        
        some people just want to slag off the police (General Chat) - SCC 28, Aug 9, 17:44:59
        
        *not supposedly....* (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Aug 9, 17:43:52
        
        over a 1000 since 1990 (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 9, 17:42:24

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