also rans aren't consistent slam semi finalists

and multiple title winners

he just happened to not be better than the likes of federer and hewitt

no disgrace in that

you may as well call holland also rans on the world footballing stage cos they've never won a world cup

the fifa rankings of the last 40 years however, would disagree...

Posted By: SCC 28 on June 24th 2011 at 22:22:09

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Great. Can we go straight to the bit where he (Other Sports) - Higher Wrather, Jun 24, 21:53:58
- Just curious why (Other Sports) - loz, Jun 24, 21:55:49
  - Dont hate him, but he's pretty average and doesnt justify (Other Sports) - Higher Wrather, Jun 24, 22:03:23
    - Not sure being consistently in the top 4 in the World at something deserves 'average'... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Jun 24, 22:05:45
    - average wtf?! (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:05:45
    - he's 4th in the world! that's a bit better than average (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:05:22
  - i dont hate him at all (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 21:57:59
    - He is just a tad too tentative at times (Other Sports) - loz, Jun 24, 22:00:09
      - not fussed what nationality wins it really (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:04:01
      - we do? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:02:15
        
        I'm not sure I care what nationality the winner is (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:02:56
        
        i wasnt bothered when timmy was rocking the tennis world (n/m) (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:06:58
        
        when did he do that? (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:08:35
        
        in all my born days i have never knowingly met a tennis fan (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:14:20
        
        fuck me, a F1 fan approached me to talk about British racetracks (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:19:14
        
        just the 6 grand slam semis (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:10:14
        
        Greg was better, with 15 titles and a Slam Final (n/m) (Other Sports) - Vivid Data Shark, Jun 24, 22:51:15
        
        i'd disagree as he only had 1 good season (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:58:50
        
        so no wins in Grand slams then? (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:10:58
        
        how can a top seed not play a tournament lol (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:14:16
        
        *top ranked then (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:17:57
        
        also rans aren't consistent slam semi finalists (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:22:09
        
        Holland are also-rans yes (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:25:15
        
        no (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:25:43
        
        6 semi finals in a 10+ year career isn't really consistency is it? (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:25:00
        
        of course it's consistency (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:28:49
        
        He had a good career but just wasn't good enough to beat the best when it mattered. (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:33:26
        
        can't disagree with much of that (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:36:57
        
        no one said he was shit, just that he was an also ran. Which he was (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:30:25
        
        also ran (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:31:58
        
        Depends how you judge success. He was successful in makin the most of his also-ran ability (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:34:40
        
        talentless ability wtf? (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:35:17
        
        "Talentless ability"? Don't think I said that! (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:36:49
        
        an also ran has little talent (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:38:57
        
        I know where he was ranked. Winning 1 tournament per year is a bit of an also ran (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:41:14
        
        no he was a top 10 player (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:44:03
        
        not even that - 11 in a 16-year career (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:42:34
        
        16 ROLF (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:44:45
        
        well early to mids (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:46:44
        
        "Not challenging" = also-ran. Case closed. (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:46:27
        
        agreed, end of debate. Good to see we're all agreed on this now (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:47:51
        
        if he didn't challange he wouldn't have won 11 titles (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:47:38
        
        He was a one-trick serve-volley pony. (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:49:12
        
        yeah that's why he made the last 4 of the french (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:50:39
        
        That was a one=off fluke and he probably did it serve-volleying! (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:54:18
        
        here you are (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:40:42
        
        thankyou for that incorrect definition of also ran (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:34:28
        
        well he won or nearly won very often (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:36:23
        
        11 tourney wins in a 12-year career is "rarely winning" hope this helps (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:40:53
        
        i said winning or nearly winning (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:43:19
        
        Very up and down rankings-wise during his best seasons. Erratic. (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:47:42
        
        no he wasn't (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:52:27
        
        i think i'll become a tennis pro (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:33:24
        
        What do you do? Are you a professional wrather?! (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:35:49
        
        yep pro wrather (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:37:19
        
        you should definitely consider the tennis route then. Sounds conc lucrative. (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:39:03
        
        too old now (n/m) (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:40:59
        
        Fed's still doing alright! (n/m) (Other Sports) - JD3, Jun 24, 22:48:09
        
        he's still 29 (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 23:03:32
        
        you need to learn how to whack the fucker hard though (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:34:53
        
        i should step in here.... (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:21:53
        
        it's true, but outside the UK he created no interest at all (n/m) (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:24:00
        
        what sort of interest? (Other Sports) - SCC 28, Jun 24, 22:31:01
        
        it does irk me somewhat (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 22:28:17
        
        here is is doing what he did best (Other Sports) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jun 24, 22:28:14
- when he retires he could work for tefal (Other Sports) - Tombs, Jun 24, 21:55:38

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