Industrial Relations in 2010
My view has changed completely from an instinctive support for strikers to an instinctive support for The Management.
We all get more reactionary as we get older (and I've got a lot older...) which may be part of it.
But where Scargill was quite right in his views on what Thatcher was trying to do to the industry (as history has proved), the likes of Bob Crow just piss me off.
It's not just the cases like the union standing up for reinstatement of drivers who were found with empty bottles and smelled of alcohol on the grounds that despite the above two facts there was no empirical proof they'd been drinking.
Way back when there was a genuine need for unions because the working class (back when we actually had one) was genuinely oppressed and exploited.
However a Tube driver earns ?30-40k/year for a short working week with loads of holidays. Hardly an oppressed mass.
Similarly there are far more people queuing up to become firefighters than vacancies - which doesn't suggest they're that hard done by.
And BA Cabin Crew earn about twice what cabin crew on other airlines earn.
As in all industries, management will be seeking to implement efficient working practices. Ideally that would be done in concert with organised labour however I can't help feeling that *any* proposal, whatever its merits, is instinctively judged by the unions on "how many people this means we need to employ", not "what is best/appropriate for the health of the company/the needs of the served public".
This is just wrong. Most businesses have laid off staff - in my sector it's been about 10-25% (and no I wasn't one of them) - in the last few years. Why some feel they should be immune is just beyond me. Sometimes things *can* be done better with fewer people and it's not a Thatcherite agenda, just good management.
/rant
Posted By: Old Man on October 27th 2010 at 19:11:07
Message Thread
- Fireman on Strike on 5th November (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:08:45
- The LFB bosses are the ones putting lives at risk...that's a key reason for Firefighters (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 17:49:53
- Industrial Relations in 2010 (General Chat) - Old Man, Oct 27, 19:11:07
- are they though? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 27, 18:00:16
- it's totally up to you who you want to believe (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 18:09:19
- a bit of both and a lot of neither (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 27, 19:15:29
- it's unreasonable I guess (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 20:11:20
- Osbourne must be being very reasonable then (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 27, 20:30:59
- it's unreasonable I guess (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 20:11:20
- a bit of both and a lot of neither (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 27, 19:15:29
- it's totally up to you who you want to believe (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 18:09:19
- They are not striking on 5th November (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:52:06
- Who's going to extinguish all those burning tyres you put outside black people's houses? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 27, 17:21:05
- Chuckle (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:23:02
- the army (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 27, 17:22:33
- What about the AA? They claim to be the 4th emergency service. (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 27, 17:28:06
- i really cant see how a bunch of alchies can help! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 27, 18:01:08
- mock the week will be on the phone (General Chat) - pants, Oct 27, 18:01:58
- No the AA are only good at (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:31:51
- i bet you love easy start being sprayed direct into your cylinder by a bloke heading for a (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 27, 17:33:30
- they can put out car fires (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 27, 17:30:32
- Do you think it is right of them to strike? (n/m) (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:32:44
- i really cant see how a bunch of alchies can help! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Oct 27, 18:01:08
- No army left in UK? (n/m) (General Chat) - EtuWHO, Oct 27, 17:23:26
- What about the AA? They claim to be the 4th emergency service. (General Chat) - tudders, Oct 27, 17:28:06
- The LFB bosses are the ones putting lives at risk...that's a key reason for Firefighters (General Chat) - Brandonio, Oct 27, 17:49:53
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