That comment about being dead and just for tourists - that's why I suggested that

Tony Martin look for one of the hidden away squares. They are extremely alive. Fish markets, kids playing while their parents watch from the window (no cars of course), etc.

If you stay near the Grand Canal and Piazza San Marco then of course it is dead and touristy.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on September 28th 2010 at 12:58:59

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This time in 2 weeks I'll be in Florence... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:07:01
- this time next week got 5 days in germany.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 11:52:08
  - "Place near Amsterdam". What's it called ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:53:25
    - Nieuwegein (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 12:08:56
      - Ah. Near Utrecht, not Amsterdam. Dump and one of the few places with crap public transport (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:35:06
        
        ps - wheres the best place to fly into for Nieuwegein then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 12:44:17
        
        Schiphol (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:45:23
        
        ta. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 12:51:57
        
        used to live not far from maastrict....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 12:43:28
        
        Now Roermond is a total dump ! Eindhoven's OK though. Used to have a girlfriend from (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:46:17
        
        maastrict was always good......... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 28, 12:51:39
    - Belgium (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 28, 11:54:55
- i'm orf to turkey 2 weeks on thursday (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Sep 28, 11:34:59
  - cant beat a bit of AI (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:37:53
    - specially with my wife and 4 kids in tow (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Sep 28, 11:38:32
- off to Venice in 4 weeks! (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:32:19
  - I've not been there either... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:33:44
    - Florence is nicer (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 28, 12:36:28
      - Disagree, although I am not knocking Florence. I've been to a lot of supposedly (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:37:28
        
        smells about as bad as marmite... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 28, 12:48:54
        
        That comment about being dead and just for tourists - that's why I suggested that (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:58:59
        
        Yeah, heard all about the smell. Been there 3 times, all in late summer, and never noticed (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:51:50
    - went to florence in August - v nice, make sure to have a florentine style steak! (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:36:20
      - Veggie? Me? Fack orf... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:39:39
        
        nothing wrong with being veggie (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 28, 11:45:42
        
        If you're the beacon of all things veggieness then yes, yes there fucking is (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:47:37
        
        how can someone be a beacon of not eating meat? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 28, 11:49:40
        
        Cos you're so grumpy... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:50:37
        
        lol (NCFC) - SCC 28, Sep 28, 11:51:47
        
        meat sweats ahoy! (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:42:42
    - Venice is my most favouritist City ever and I've been to a few. Love it ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:35:55
      - u ever been on the lido? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:37:18
        
        Yes, shortly, but I think only to have something to eat whilst waiting for a boat when we (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:39:40
        
        staying at the excelsior hotel on the lido and they do free boat into (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:42:14
        
        Which Lido ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Sep 28, 12:13:15
        
        i went there in 2004 (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 28, 12:40:39
        
        Venezia's ground is a bit of an eyesore, surprisingly (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 12:36:00
        
        Yes it is. But if a ground is going to be an eyesore, the journey needs to be fun ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Sep 28, 13:16:36
        
        Do all the islands - but at least Burano and Murano and the Cemetary island. Another tip (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:48:23
        
        Hare gew (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:50:14
        
        excellent will give it a look, cheers (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Sep 28, 11:52:53
- Renaissance Panda (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 28, 11:14:34
  - They've got a cracking Mormon temple - much better than Florence, in a way. (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Sep 28, 11:23:11
    - Really? Just loads of grotty old pubs and shops as far as I can tell. (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 28, 11:25:00
      - pubs a pub (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Sep 28, 11:40:01
  - Is that a Northern place?.. (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:21:36
    - Yup, nair Bolton (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Sep 28, 11:23:45
      - Ah right, Bolton... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:27:36
- are you taking captain canary? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Sep 28, 11:10:29
  - No, no we're not (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:14:04
- it's nice there (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 28, 11:08:41
  - The replica is outside the Uffizi intut (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:09:31
    - dunno, can't remember, but the cathedral, the replica, the bridge with the shops on (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 28, 11:22:43
      - Ponte Vecchio. Very nice. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:28:47
    - Yes, yes we will... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:12:36
      - Ponte Vecchio, Duomo of course. I was only there on a day trip from Rome so just did the (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:29:25
        
        Would you say overall Florence just shades it over Bolton? (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:34:37
        
        Just a bit. Actually in many ways I preferred it to Rome. Am much more into Mediaevel than (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:37:58
- Beautiful city. Make sure to reserve several hours for the Uffizi ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Sep 28, 11:08:20
- does she know? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 28, 11:07:53
  - Cheeky (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:10:11
    - I reckon you'd rather be at QPR, secretly. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 28, 11:10:58
      - I think the only good thing about me not being at QPR now... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Sep 28, 11:13:54

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