right, so let's ignore problems with the church because there's problems elsewhere as well

?

what utter rubbish.

just because people are upset about religion it doesn't mean they aren't also upset about other abuses of power which are in no way connected to any religion at all.

no one is suggesting all atheists (or agnostics for that matter) are better than all those that have religious faith and that everything would be perfect if all religion ended tomorrow.

Posted By: Ralf Scrampton on September 17th 2010 at 19:28:19

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... (General Chat) - Higher Wrather, Sep 17, 13:51:45
- I don't think he was suggeting that your views were tedious, just answering (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 17, 14:18:29
  - exactly, its like being very dead (General Chat) - Firstnews, Sep 17, 15:48:58
    - Religious leaders feel threatened by Dawkins.... (General Chat) - Drew Peacock, Sep 17, 16:31:37
      - With Dawkins... (General Chat) - Martin Peters, Sep 17, 18:31:18
        
        not at all. (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 17, 19:20:44
        
        quite simplistic you mean (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Sep 17, 19:28:39
        
        no harm in aiming high (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 17, 19:41:34
    - I have never read anything that Dawkins has written (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Sep 17, 16:04:24
- except Hitler was a catholic (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 17, 14:03:42
  - Certainly not an atheist, anyway, seemingly: (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 17, 14:08:42
    - Mein Kampf is full of God's will etc too (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Sep 17, 14:50:42
      - A megalomaniac manipulating religious beliefs to justify his own tyrannical racist beliefs (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 17, 15:29:51
        
        Funny the morality of picking at religion (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 16:51:06
        
        Agreed (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 17, 17:14:12
        
        There's loads of cases of abuse in care homes. Does that mean the Nursing Practice (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 17:43:53
        
        It's not often I say to this to you Pantaloons but ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 17, 17:49:28
        
        right, so let's ignore problems with the church because there's problems elsewhere as well (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 17, 19:28:19
        
        'no one is suggesting all atheists (or agnostics for that matter) are better than all (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 17, 19:56:26
        
        i've argued a similar point as him on here myself too (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 17, 21:05:13
        
        well said (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 17, 19:48:31
        
        There's another 1200 bits the internet's never going to get back (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 19:55:49
        
        keep defending child abusers (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 17, 19:56:40
        
        Try and sleep in your own bed tonight (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 20:01:33
        
        you are such a fat nonse (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 17, 20:03:19
        
        *nonce (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 21:56:47
        
        i don't think it's comparable at all (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 17, 17:55:37
        
        Shall we do a gay-off? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 17, 17:58:40
        
        if you think an organisation guilty of cover ups (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 17, 18:03:24
        
        ** (General Chat) - pants, Sep 17, 16:52:25
        
        Agreed, agreed, agreed (General Chat) - The Judge, Sep 17, 16:02:42
        
        fear you might be right. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 17, 15:30:35

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