I know.

Klose and Podolski were both born in Poland I think, and Cacau in Brazil.

But then John Barnes was born in Jamaica, Hargreaves in Canada and grew up in Germany, Terry Scummer Butcher in Singapore, etc, but the massive difference over here and in Germany is that we don't even think about that.

They even refer to their Surinamese players as "Suriprofs". They see them as a different nationality even though most were born in Holland (mostly Amsterdam) - Gullit, Seedorf, Davids, Winter, van Bronckhorst, Bogarde, Roy, etc
, and the Moroccan players they simply call Moroccan.

The Germans I spoke to felt the same. Doesn't make any difference to me but today I just noticed who was singing and who was not and it was really 100% either way.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on July 3rd 2010 at 22:38:40

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So who do people want to win it then? Spain for me. (n/m) (Other Football) - BINMEN8R, Jul 3, 22:16:44
- Spain, got them in the office sweep (n/m) (Other Football) - Ben, Jul 4, 00:12:48
- Germans (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 3, 23:50:17
- anyone except the Nazis (n/m) (Other Football) - Norwood, Jul 3, 23:24:07
  - Well done. (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 23:31:22
  - oh dear (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 23:25:05
    - It was quite tame compared to other stuff on here recently (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jul 3, 23:49:56
- Germany. (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 22:20:34
  - they play as a team (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Jul 3, 22:23:32
    - *play* you knew (n/m) (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Jul 3, 22:57:46
    - And a Spaniard and a Brazilian. Anyone notice none of the "foreigners" (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 22:28:16
      - ?zil and Khedira were born in Germany. (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 22:33:35
        
        Cacau was born in Brazil, (Other Football) - mike_the_sphinx, Jul 4, 07:42:20
        
        I know. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 22:38:40
        
        and Gomes in Spain. I think (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 22:39:08
        
        I read an interview with Assou-Ekotto (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 23:30:09
        
        Not with England though. And that's something to actually be proud of (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 23:32:24
        
        We are absurdly repressed and yet oddly liberal at the same time (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 23:37:19
        
        Tried an experiment a while back. Named an England team I claimed I thought would be (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 23:45:11
  - Holland cos I want the party, then Germany because they play, strangely, (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 22:22:43
    - Holland would be my second. (Other Football) - APB, Jul 3, 22:28:23
    - Come on you cloggers! (n/m) (Other Football) - fareastcanary, Jul 3, 22:24:14

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