which is quite incredible considering

he inherited O'Neill's side who were doing quite well.

It is
a)possibly the finest example of a decent-ish side being ruined by a loser
OR
b) the perfect demonstration of how thin the margins are between success & failure

Posted By: jayson blair on January 4th 2010 at 17:34:05

Message Thread

i take it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:51:55
- up the arse (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 4, 21:22:38
- He's only 5 places away from where Roeder had us when he got sacked (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:53:59
  - Actually Roeder's win/game ratio was worse than Grant's (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:07:55
    - Worthy?s stats are pretty good actually (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:11:17
      - Worthy and Ken Brown are the best win-per-game ratios over a long period (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:12:20
        
        I do wonder what would have happened if we gave Worthy more time (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:14:18
        
        Yeah, shows how much the expectation rises when (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:15:42
      - And Megson is statistically the worst ever (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:12:05
        
        which is quite incredible considering (NCFC) - jayson blair, Jan 4, 17:34:05
        
        Sometimes even statistics can tell the truth ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:12:45
  - what does roeder have to do with anything? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:56:30
    - He was one of our managers (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:57:08
      - Dear oh dear (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:02:06
      - It's so much better when you don't talk about ncfc. (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 15:59:39
        
        Are you a personified contridiction? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:01:11
        
        No (n/m) (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 16:02:17
      - and why is he relevant? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:58:59
        
        I've answered this question already (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:02:33
        
        you could bring up roeder on any norwich thread then (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:05:16
        
        I don't see the relevance of someone being the best manager in our history (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:06:45
        
        He didn't. He said the highest win per game ratio. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:09:34
        
        i didn't say he was the best manager in our history (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:09:20
        
        He picks Darel Russell though, you know, the player you said you were going to boo (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:11:25
        
        so i should turn on lambert for picking a player i don't like? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:14:32
        
        No, you should like the players he picks, cos you think he's the most successful manager (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:17:10
        
        i don't think it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:19:31
        
        That, ladies and gentlemen, is called fudging the argument (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:13:51
        
        Everyone does it in here though. I asked Selwyn a direct question this morning, he dodged (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:19:16
        
        Yep, I know - I wasnt pointing the finger just at you (although you (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:22:26
        
        The inflamed over statement started it really (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:26:33
        
        inflamed overstatement? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:30:08
        
        Happy birthday for the other day (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:33:37
        
        cheers was yesterday (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:38:16
        
        Where in London did you go? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:42:04
        
        the south coasterly bit (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:44:16
        
        you went out in Chichester?! (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:39:04
        
        lol (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:40:41
        
        indeed i doubt there are many managers in football (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:32:08
        
        See, now you'd be fined for saying that if you were in Ireland (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:31:47
        
        Honestly - I saw nothing wrong with SCCs original post. I liked it (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:29:38
        
        First proper day back at work... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:28:21
        
        Happy New Year everyone! (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:14:44
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:16:39
        
        That's a very fair point (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:08:41
        
        Reply to what ? That wasn't SCC's question (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:11:26
        
        well it's not (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:10:59
        
        No, no you can't. And for that reason, I'm out. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:12:03
        
        Could you not argue that (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:09:54
        
        Yet on another day, all our players would easily compete in the championship (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:28:33
        
        Well, they probably could mostly (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:34:03
        
        Pearson at Leicester has a pretty good record I would imagine (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:36:24
        
        Unless your sacked midway through without even being in the bottom 3 (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:36:07
        
        Look, I have no idea why you feel the need to keep bringing it up (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:41:42
        
        Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:44:29
        
        Yet you've both remarked about how you wonder what would have happened if Worthy stayed? (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:45:33
        
        but at least he had a few good seasons as well (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:47:37
        
        Well, we were bottom of the league with 8 points when he took over (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:53:01
        
        Ok I'll bite... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:56:49
        
        I think this topic has been done to death (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:55:28
        
        Well we best stop cos you say so (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:56:12
        
        Feel free to carry on (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 17:03:24
        
        I think the worthy one has, but it's still brought up like he (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:05:48
        
        i don't remember him getting bankrolled when we won the title (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:07:59
        
        erm ok (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:18:29
        
        not massive spending (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:23:36
        
        ?3m in transfers is massive spending actually (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:32:51
        
        he's made a decent enough team of northern ireland (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:44:47
        
        whooopi......................do! (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:46:15
        
        Of course (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:19:57
        
        is there a PMS type thing that blokes can get? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:04:43
        
        Yours would be like Pamela on gavin and stacey (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:06:52
        
        i don't watch it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:09:14
        
        And your last 2 months (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:12:08
        
        fairly sure you were moaning before that (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:13:19
        
        I'll consider thinking like that after January. We still have the people here at the top (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:44:12
        
        you are allowed to be happy about football (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:46:26
        
        Well, yes, selling players and Lambert leaving would (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:45:20
        
        we should enjoy this moment anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:48:31
        
        Yeah, and I doubt it will happen (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:56:33
        
        you could also see it that if we do sell then it is testament to how well (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:49:47
        
        yeah we wouldn't be attracting bids on pre lambert form (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:51:40
        
        yeah mark hughes must feel sick (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:39:10
        
        Yeah, probably (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:38:08
        
        Yep, you could indeed. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:10:48
        
        And you should, too (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:11:39
        
        It's so much better when you don't talk to Pants. (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 16:01:50
        
        only asking a question (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:03:44
        
        He has the highest win-per-game ratio (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:06:58
        
        It also makes me wonder when we will get our first non UK manager... (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:19:08
        
        And when we'll have our first overseas POTS (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:22:35
        
        nice one (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:11:41
        
        I love that link right off (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:12:54
      - everybody else has moved on now mate. Looking to the future (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 15:58:08
        
        If I don't see the word (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:15:15
        
        The thorne thing is a joke about the player and not you (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:19:37
        
        Looks like it's not going to happen (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:35:14
        
        Thorne is used as a joke whereas yours appears (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:16:41
        
        no (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:20:19
        
        At least he got a job right quick after leaving us though. More fool us. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:02:05
  - and you've been so good, too (n/m) (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 15:56:11
  - replies full of derision won't be tolerated (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:55:02
    - they would be the only ones appropriate to that post, to be fair (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:00:08
- replies such as up the arse won't be tolerated (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:52:26
  - up the poo pipe ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 15:53:11

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