Well, we were bottom of the league with 8 points when he took over

I think you can actually say he got us out of a rut

Unlike Worthington though, he didn't get money for his targets, so he stuck with what he knew, and he got sacked for it

When Gunn came in, he stuck with what Roeder knew, but wasn't a manager, and in doing so, not just pushed us down, but by the end, had strapped a turbo engine on the back

And then got the job

Posted By: pants on January 4th 2010 at 16:53:01

Message Thread

i take it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:51:55
- up the arse (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 4, 21:22:38
- He's only 5 places away from where Roeder had us when he got sacked (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:53:59
  - Actually Roeder's win/game ratio was worse than Grant's (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:07:55
    - Worthy?s stats are pretty good actually (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:11:17
      - Worthy and Ken Brown are the best win-per-game ratios over a long period (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:12:20
        
        I do wonder what would have happened if we gave Worthy more time (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:14:18
        
        Yeah, shows how much the expectation rises when (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:15:42
      - And Megson is statistically the worst ever (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:12:05
        
        which is quite incredible considering (NCFC) - jayson blair, Jan 4, 17:34:05
        
        Sometimes even statistics can tell the truth ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:12:45
  - what does roeder have to do with anything? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:56:30
    - He was one of our managers (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:57:08
      - Dear oh dear (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:02:06
      - It's so much better when you don't talk about ncfc. (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 15:59:39
        
        Are you a personified contridiction? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:01:11
        
        No (n/m) (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 16:02:17
      - and why is he relevant? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:58:59
        
        I've answered this question already (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:02:33
        
        you could bring up roeder on any norwich thread then (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:05:16
        
        I don't see the relevance of someone being the best manager in our history (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:06:45
        
        He didn't. He said the highest win per game ratio. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:09:34
        
        i didn't say he was the best manager in our history (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:09:20
        
        He picks Darel Russell though, you know, the player you said you were going to boo (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:11:25
        
        so i should turn on lambert for picking a player i don't like? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:14:32
        
        No, you should like the players he picks, cos you think he's the most successful manager (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:17:10
        
        i don't think it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:19:31
        
        That, ladies and gentlemen, is called fudging the argument (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:13:51
        
        Everyone does it in here though. I asked Selwyn a direct question this morning, he dodged (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:19:16
        
        Yep, I know - I wasnt pointing the finger just at you (although you (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:22:26
        
        The inflamed over statement started it really (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:26:33
        
        inflamed overstatement? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:30:08
        
        Happy birthday for the other day (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:33:37
        
        cheers was yesterday (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:38:16
        
        Where in London did you go? (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:42:04
        
        the south coasterly bit (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:44:16
        
        you went out in Chichester?! (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:39:04
        
        lol (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:40:41
        
        indeed i doubt there are many managers in football (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:32:08
        
        See, now you'd be fined for saying that if you were in Ireland (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:31:47
        
        Honestly - I saw nothing wrong with SCCs original post. I liked it (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:29:38
        
        First proper day back at work... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:28:21
        
        Happy New Year everyone! (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:14:44
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:16:39
        
        That's a very fair point (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:08:41
        
        Reply to what ? That wasn't SCC's question (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:11:26
        
        well it's not (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:10:59
        
        No, no you can't. And for that reason, I'm out. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:12:03
        
        Could you not argue that (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:09:54
        
        Yet on another day, all our players would easily compete in the championship (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:28:33
        
        Well, they probably could mostly (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:34:03
        
        Pearson at Leicester has a pretty good record I would imagine (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:36:24
        
        Unless your sacked midway through without even being in the bottom 3 (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:36:07
        
        Look, I have no idea why you feel the need to keep bringing it up (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:41:42
        
        Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:44:29
        
        Yet you've both remarked about how you wonder what would have happened if Worthy stayed? (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:45:33
        
        but at least he had a few good seasons as well (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:47:37
        
        Well, we were bottom of the league with 8 points when he took over (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:53:01
        
        Ok I'll bite... (NCFC) - Rofl_Harris, Jan 4, 16:56:49
        
        I think this topic has been done to death (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:55:28
        
        Well we best stop cos you say so (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:56:12
        
        Feel free to carry on (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 17:03:24
        
        I think the worthy one has, but it's still brought up like he (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:05:48
        
        i don't remember him getting bankrolled when we won the title (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:07:59
        
        erm ok (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:18:29
        
        not massive spending (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:23:36
        
        ?3m in transfers is massive spending actually (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:32:51
        
        he's made a decent enough team of northern ireland (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:44:47
        
        whooopi......................do! (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:46:15
        
        Of course (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:19:57
        
        is there a PMS type thing that blokes can get? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:04:43
        
        Yours would be like Pamela on gavin and stacey (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:06:52
        
        i don't watch it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:09:14
        
        And your last 2 months (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 17:12:08
        
        fairly sure you were moaning before that (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 17:13:19
        
        I'll consider thinking like that after January. We still have the people here at the top (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:44:12
        
        you are allowed to be happy about football (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:46:26
        
        Well, yes, selling players and Lambert leaving would (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:45:20
        
        we should enjoy this moment anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:48:31
        
        Yeah, and I doubt it will happen (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:56:33
        
        you could also see it that if we do sell then it is testament to how well (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:49:47
        
        yeah we wouldn't be attracting bids on pre lambert form (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:51:40
        
        yeah mark hughes must feel sick (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:39:10
        
        Yeah, probably (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:38:08
        
        Yep, you could indeed. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:10:48
        
        And you should, too (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:11:39
        
        It's so much better when you don't talk to Pants. (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 16:01:50
        
        only asking a question (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:03:44
        
        He has the highest win-per-game ratio (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:06:58
        
        It also makes me wonder when we will get our first non UK manager... (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:19:08
        
        And when we'll have our first overseas POTS (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:22:35
        
        nice one (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:11:41
        
        I love that link right off (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:12:54
      - everybody else has moved on now mate. Looking to the future (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 15:58:08
        
        If I don't see the word (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:15:15
        
        The thorne thing is a joke about the player and not you (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 4, 16:19:37
        
        Looks like it's not going to happen (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 16:35:14
        
        Thorne is used as a joke whereas yours appears (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 4, 16:16:41
        
        no (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 16:20:19
        
        At least he got a job right quick after leaving us though. More fool us. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Jan 4, 16:02:05
  - and you've been so good, too (n/m) (NCFC) - Trolling AGAIN, Jan 4, 15:56:11
  - replies full of derision won't be tolerated (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 4, 15:55:02
    - they would be the only ones appropriate to that post, to be fair (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 16:00:08
- replies such as up the arse won't be tolerated (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 4, 15:52:26
  - up the poo pipe ! (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 4, 15:53:11

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