Obviously. But then neither has Seve Ballesteros. You see the problem with it?

How can you compare across sports? How many other footballers have achieved what he has done? Top level for nearly 20 years? One club? Not many.

Posted By: Yellalee on December 13th 2009 at 21:23:21

Message Thread

SPOTY is a joke (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:01:50
- Agreed - awards like tonight just devalue it (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 13, 22:18:57
  - It doesn't really have much value anyway. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 13, 22:37:14
    - it does for the more 'minority' sports i reckon (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 22:40:17
  - It's a public vote! (n/m) (Other Sports) - conker, Dec 13, 22:20:15
    - I know its a public vote but he shouldn't have been on the list (Other Sports) - Jim, Dec 13, 22:22:41
- shoulda been Cavendish if you ask me (Other Sports) - Monty Peculiar, Dec 13, 21:46:24
  - Grant Holt for me (sic) (Other Sports) - Jambocanary, Dec 13, 22:06:04
  - and if you'd asked me, i'd've agreed (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:51:03
    - And I. Mark Cavendish 1, Jenson Button 2, Tom Daley 3 (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:54:08
      - 1. Phillips Idowu 2. Mark Cavendish 3. David Heyes for me (n/m) (Other Sports) - wgf500, Dec 13, 21:59:50
      - the heptathlete jesica ennis should have had a chance (n/m) (Other Sports) - gerry wratherty, Dec 13, 21:58:33
- Don't see why, it is the public that votes. Their only mistake is not putting him up for (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:14:26
  - no, I believe this to be a shambles (n/m) (Other Sports) - Charles21, Dec 13, 22:01:11
  - have a word with yourself! (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:19:35
    - Obviously. But then neither has Seve Ballesteros. You see the problem with it? (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:23:21
      - Seve is one of the greatest golfers AND sporting personalities ever (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:25:01
        
        Ah, now we get to the bottom of it. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:25:41
  - it's not the public that chooses the 10 finalists, he should never have been in there (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:18:36
    - But then if people didnt agree, then they wouldnt have voted. Fair enough, to me (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:21:32
      - Man Ure fans voting for one of their players (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:26:44
        
        The result will always have its knockers (n/m) (Other Sports) - WW2 News, Dec 13, 21:30:45
        
        lol. Bit disingenuous. People have their own criteria for voting - happens every year. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:28:18
        
        alright, Man Ure fans and Welsh people... (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:34:00
        
        Agreed. People vote for who they like. No other criteria. Same every year. (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:36:40
        
        agree 100% (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:40:22
        
        Possibly so. If the criteria were specifically achievement throughout the year. (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:42:54
        
        for the shortlist, it is (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:45:44
        
        It's not, haregoo lut (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:50:09
        
        and Giggs did fuck all during the year to put himself ahead of his teammates (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 22:36:41
        
        it doesn't rate their achievements - merely says the achievements have to be based in the (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 22:49:14
        
        you know exactly what it means (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 22:52:16
        
        (: (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 23:26:06
        
        Despite being a fucking awful manager. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 13, 21:37:29
        
        Fannnn-tastic! (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:38:00
        
        Hamilton? (Other Sports) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 13, 21:39:02
      - So what has Giggs done that's brilliant? (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:22:50
        
        Erm, isn't that what I just said? You don't have to do something brilliant to win it (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:24:07
        
        at least she'd acheived something in the year she won it (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:27:27
        
        A sport for posh rich people... Giggs won the Premier League... (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:29:06
        
        Wow weeeee (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:31:11
        
        What do you get if you win? (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 13, 21:27:06
        
        Very small camera on a broad tripod. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Arizona Bay, Dec 13, 21:29:03
        
        I can't imagine how gutted the other nominees must be right now. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Dec 13, 21:33:31
        
        World Champ who also happens to be a royal (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:26:19
    - "Sports Personality of the Year" (Other Sports) - Iwan Husarmi, Dec 13, 21:20:35
      - David Haye is a walking PERSONALITY (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:21:47
        
        When others think he is a cocky cunt. One man's meat is another man's poison (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:25:07
        
        of all the British footballers that have played the game over the past 12 months (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:29:47
        
        That's just it though, isn't it. What is a 'personality of the Year?' Is it achievement? (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:30:59
        
        yes it is, unless you're now making a case for Giggs based on his sparkling wit... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:35:24
        
        I'd vote for Drury... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:37:12
        
        you wouldn't get the chance because the public don't decide the shortlist... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:39:02
        
        Yup. And back to the top of the thread we go... (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:39:56
        
        aye, SPOTY is a joke (n/m) (Other Sports) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 13, 21:40:59
        
        Agreed. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:43:08
        
        I think you're just being a dirty little troll pal (n/m) (Other Sports) - Rofl_Harris, Dec 13, 21:32:15
        
        lol, if you say so. (n/m) (Other Sports) - Yellalee, Dec 13, 21:32:42
- ^^^He's not wrong (n/m) (Other Sports) - wgf500, Dec 13, 21:09:51
- indeed (n/m) (Other Sports) - Danny, Dec 13, 21:03:29

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