^^^ Yes. Entirely anecdotal, and subjective, this, but ...

it wasn't until I started complimenting occasional running and swimming with 2 really really good sessions of weights a week that the weight started to go down again. And that's despite the muscle-weighs-more-than-fat thing.

I do hour-long weights classes, twice a week at the gym, where it's all about low-medium weight, but lots and lots of repetitions - you don't pack on lots of big muscle mass, but what you have becomes denser and more toned.

The reason I do instructor-led classes is because there's few motivations as good as having a scary ex-paratrooper shouting at you not to give up.

Posted By: Arizona Bay on November 19th 2009 at 14:24:05

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Poached salmon salad and grapes AGAIN (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 13:57:41
- Just received this companywide mail about lunch from the receptionist... (General Chat) - KentonCanary, Nov 19, 14:04:30
  - She has a point though (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:11:07
    - Half eaten egg sandwich is hardly professional (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Nov 19, 14:14:40
      - Should just take one bite out of each one and put it back (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:16:58
        
        Or lick them all (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:17:57
        
        put chef's special sauce in the mayo (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:21:23
        
        I wondered how long that would take. (n/m) (General Chat) - Small, Nov 19, 14:24:23
        
        play your cards right and a couple of minutes should do! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:38:02
        
        you could pare off a smal amount from each (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:21:18
      - why is it never called half uneaten? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Nov 19, 14:16:47
    - Indeed. It seems a bit sad that it needed making (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:12:58
- 16lbs of salmon in one sitting. (General Chat) - lurd, Nov 19, 14:00:29
  - so far.....lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:04:44
- aargh (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 13:58:58
  - Almost down to my fighting weight, too. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Nov 19, 14:12:30
    - I've lost a stone this year (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:15:03
      - Well you're heading in the right direction! (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:17:29
        
        haha (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:19:57
        
        chuckle (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:20:56
  - I've had nothing. (General Chat) - Garry Brooke, Nov 19, 14:02:51
    - That's the ticket (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:05:24
  - do the slimming world for a couple of months (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:00:31
    - I just can't face the whole fat club thing (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:01:19
      - Try the Hacker's diet (General Chat) - yarmyyarmy, Nov 19, 14:09:11
      - Losing weight is easy. Just stop eating and run around for a few weeks. (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:05:41
        
        I've half starved myself all my life (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:08:34
        
        Eat, but exercise (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:10:45
        
        But in the output/input equation, it is far more effective to alter the input (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:15:35
        
        I find the exact opposite, although I'll admit that, at the moment, (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:18:31
        
        You can do that, but you'll just end up hungry and lighter. Without exercise you will (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:18:21
        
        although I do think there's a lot in the muscle boost metabolism thing (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:17:29
        
        ^^^ Yes. Entirely anecdotal, and subjective, this, but ... (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Nov 19, 14:24:05
        
        "there's few motivations as good as having a scary ex-paratrooper shouting at you" (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:25:38
        
        Very true, and also perfectly possible in the instructor-led-fitness-class environment. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Nov 19, 14:27:49
        
        Yup, that's definitely true (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:22:53
        
        According to the running website I use for logging training and that, about (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Nov 19, 14:29:27
        
        Exactly. (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:19:11
        
        yeah spent half my life exercising just in order to eat really (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:13:05
        
        LOL. Well from the photos he's posted lately it does appear he is giving up on clothes (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:14:19
      - think how me and Lee must feel!!! (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:02:42
        
        I know I really admire you both (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:04:31
        
        IMO slimming is not going to get you anywhere unless you properly excercise. (General Chat) - lurd, Nov 19, 14:04:18
        
        need both really (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:06:06
- that great going - how many more to go? (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 13:58:44
  - I dunno (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:08:08
    - I am 6'1'' and at my heaviest (2002) 17 stone 2lbs now at (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Nov 19, 14:13:07
      - I was 91kg at heaviest. Now down (and back up again) to 85. Dunt know what that is (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 14:16:34
        
        1s35t? (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Nov 19, 14:24:45
        
        Cut your cock off (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:23:51
    - You could still swim theogh OG, couldn't you? Depends on the injuries I suppose. (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:10:53
      - I am such a shit swimmer you wouldn't believe (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:13:11
        
        You don't have to actually swim to exercise though. You could (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:17:02
        
        I did that for a while when I was having intensive therapy on my back (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:20:24
        
        Blimey. Hope you get better soon bud. Glad all I have is missing sight in one eye (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Nov 19, 14:23:43
        
        Thanks Gordon (General Chat) - Old Git, Nov 19, 14:26:27

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