I'm going to stop this because one can't argue with a Henry-apologist

But your point was that handball in the centre circle is just as bad as handball in the box

It isn't, and from the fact you've gone quiet on that I'm guessing that you accept that that's an indefensible position

It therefore follows that some handballs ARE worse than others. This is not evidence of moral confusion, as you suggested, just evidence of a nuanced morality

The only question which remains is what circumstances ought to be taken into account in nuancing the position

I myself think that the more important the occasion, the bigger the audience and the more important the consequences of winning or losing, the more reprehensible a serious piece of cheating (like handling in the box) is

Posted By: Old Git on November 19th 2009 at 12:46:49

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Thierry Henry is a cheating cunt, always has been, always will be (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:12:16
- you mean he's a footballer? (Other Football) - mr carra, Nov 19, 12:47:48
  - And at the end of the day, the French are in the finals. You have to wonder if (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:50:59
    - this is football we're talking about (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:55:17
      - Exactly and as it happened neither to or for me or mine, I find it (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:59:26
    - you don't have to (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:51:50
      - Oh (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:54:19
      - You do, there was a Parliamentary decree on it this morning. You were in bed. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:52:39
        
        oh bugger (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:53:54
  - our players would never cheat (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 19, 12:50:40
    - I bet the loons would ofhave, though (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 12:53:27
- Maybe, I'm not too bothered tbh, but it did lead to a splendid expression on (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:41:47
- I agree Old Git video should be used to ban players, don't just ban them for a few games (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:31:19
- in my opinion (Other Football) - micky maguire, Nov 19, 12:22:17
- I would say virtually all footballers are cheats are as the managers who send them out to (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:22:00
  - Haha, my PE teacher was an ex footballer and I called a cheat once (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:24:51
    - That reminds me, Mr Marney my games teacher made me do bunny hops around (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:29:30
      - Haha, I got the worst report, was dropped to the bottom group (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:33:36
        
        If you'd tried it with Wren from the school LOJ and I went to you'd have a bunch of (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:46:22
        
        and you would never have changed group, as he'd want to keep you in his (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:48:04
        
        too right. (n/m) (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:52:09
      - I'd love to have seen pants call Mr. Wren a cheat. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:31:31
        
        lol, Mr Wren the flame haired bad tempered old git. (n/m) (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:34:26
  - ha ha (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:22:28
- boring even myself here, but a handball isn't nasty cheating (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:15:48
  - handball is nasty cheating (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:19:05
    - fair enough. But in that case pretty much all footballers are nasty cheats (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:21:39
      - It is VERY easy to not deliberately handle the ball (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:45:14
      - That may be true (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:30:20
      - The level of debate is raised just by the importance of the game & what level of (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:27:13
        
        It's changed a lot by the consequences too. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:37:33
        
        Lots of people would remember it as another example of Henry being a nasty cheating cunt (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:38:33
        
        It's changed a lot by the consequences too. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:36:09
  - But with this one he basically caught it! (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:18:49
    - I've seen weaker basketball passes (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:19:20
      - Used a straight arm to try to keep it in, and when it started to spin out again, (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:20:52
  - You've always been a Henry apologist, Trickster, comes from your Gooner-love (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:18:17
    - indifferent to him and them. But what's your answer to the question? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:19:47
      - yes of course it was nastier and cheatier (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:20:48
        
        And he did it in a critical area (as opposed to in the centre circle) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:28:16
        
        yeah, the inbox thing is the point (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:25:08
        
        Not really moral confusion (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:29:58
        
        But in football those distinctions don't apply (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:35:33
        
        You talked about "moral" confusion, not "legal" confusion (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:37:51
        
        indeed. Hence my last sentence above (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:40:26
        
        I'm going to stop this because one can't argue with a Henry-apologist (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:46:49
        
        OG is correct here (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:49:20
        
        Which bit? It's all a load of utter bollocks (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:53:48
        
        I agree with him 100%, and disagree with you 100% (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:57:31
        
        Agree. An agreeable piece of logic fom OG. (quite rare as well). (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:53:25
        
        Yeah, but they don't blame the shop for not having alarms fitted to the sweet shelves (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:32:15
        
        Such is life though. Not many people complaining at the high risk taken (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:26:54
- Agree. So what if he admitted it. Makes no difference to the result. Hate the cunt. (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:13:52
  - He's been doing these antics for about 3 years now (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:16:58
    - Agree cheating is everywhere but that was so so blatant and of course Blatter and Platini (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:20:02
      - They Come, They Fight, They Destroy, They Corrupt, it always ends the same (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:22:02
- And is why Eduado and others will continue to throw themselves on the floor (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:13:50

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