But in football those distinctions don't apply

the laws of the game are exactly the same in a midtable league 1 game or a World Cup playoff. And likewise the penalties for contravening those rules are exactly the same in the two games.

I think it's a bit mad to suggest that a player in a big game should behave more honestly than he would in a less important game. Which is where your nuance would take you.

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on November 19th 2009 at 12:35:33

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Thierry Henry is a cheating cunt, always has been, always will be (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:12:16
- you mean he's a footballer? (Other Football) - mr carra, Nov 19, 12:47:48
  - And at the end of the day, the French are in the finals. You have to wonder if (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:50:59
    - this is football we're talking about (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:55:17
      - Exactly and as it happened neither to or for me or mine, I find it (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:59:26
    - you don't have to (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:51:50
      - Oh (n/m) (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:54:19
      - You do, there was a Parliamentary decree on it this morning. You were in bed. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:52:39
        
        oh bugger (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:53:54
  - our players would never cheat (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Nov 19, 12:50:40
    - I bet the loons would ofhave, though (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Nov 19, 12:53:27
- Maybe, I'm not too bothered tbh, but it did lead to a splendid expression on (Other Football) - CB41, Nov 19, 12:41:47
- I agree Old Git video should be used to ban players, don't just ban them for a few games (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:31:19
- in my opinion (Other Football) - micky maguire, Nov 19, 12:22:17
- I would say virtually all footballers are cheats are as the managers who send them out to (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:22:00
  - Haha, my PE teacher was an ex footballer and I called a cheat once (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:24:51
    - That reminds me, Mr Marney my games teacher made me do bunny hops around (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:29:30
      - Haha, I got the worst report, was dropped to the bottom group (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:33:36
        
        If you'd tried it with Wren from the school LOJ and I went to you'd have a bunch of (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:46:22
        
        and you would never have changed group, as he'd want to keep you in his (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:48:04
        
        too right. (n/m) (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:52:09
      - I'd love to have seen pants call Mr. Wren a cheat. (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:31:31
        
        lol, Mr Wren the flame haired bad tempered old git. (n/m) (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:34:26
  - ha ha (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:22:28
- boring even myself here, but a handball isn't nasty cheating (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:15:48
  - handball is nasty cheating (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:19:05
    - fair enough. But in that case pretty much all footballers are nasty cheats (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:21:39
      - It is VERY easy to not deliberately handle the ball (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:45:14
      - That may be true (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:30:20
      - The level of debate is raised just by the importance of the game & what level of (Other Football) - lovely old job, Nov 19, 12:27:13
        
        It's changed a lot by the consequences too. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:37:33
        
        Lots of people would remember it as another example of Henry being a nasty cheating cunt (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:38:33
        
        It's changed a lot by the consequences too. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Nov 19, 12:36:09
  - But with this one he basically caught it! (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:18:49
    - I've seen weaker basketball passes (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:19:20
      - Used a straight arm to try to keep it in, and when it started to spin out again, (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:20:52
  - You've always been a Henry apologist, Trickster, comes from your Gooner-love (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:18:17
    - indifferent to him and them. But what's your answer to the question? (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:19:47
      - yes of course it was nastier and cheatier (Other Football) - Charles21, Nov 19, 12:20:48
        
        And he did it in a critical area (as opposed to in the centre circle) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:28:16
        
        yeah, the inbox thing is the point (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:25:08
        
        Not really moral confusion (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:29:58
        
        But in football those distinctions don't apply (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:35:33
        
        You talked about "moral" confusion, not "legal" confusion (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:37:51
        
        indeed. Hence my last sentence above (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:40:26
        
        I'm going to stop this because one can't argue with a Henry-apologist (Other Football) - Old Git, Nov 19, 12:46:49
        
        OG is correct here (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:49:20
        
        Which bit? It's all a load of utter bollocks (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Nov 19, 12:53:48
        
        I agree with him 100%, and disagree with you 100% (n/m) (Other Football) - duke of york, Nov 19, 12:57:31
        
        Agree. An agreeable piece of logic fom OG. (quite rare as well). (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:53:25
        
        Yeah, but they don't blame the shop for not having alarms fitted to the sweet shelves (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:32:15
        
        Such is life though. Not many people complaining at the high risk taken (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Nov 19, 12:26:54
- Agree. So what if he admitted it. Makes no difference to the result. Hate the cunt. (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:13:52
  - He's been doing these antics for about 3 years now (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:16:58
    - Agree cheating is everywhere but that was so so blatant and of course Blatter and Platini (Other Football) - Snakey, Nov 19, 12:20:02
      - They Come, They Fight, They Destroy, They Corrupt, it always ends the same (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:22:02
- And is why Eduado and others will continue to throw themselves on the floor (Other Football) - pants, Nov 19, 12:13:50

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