Its the former definitely but a bit of the latter as well

There are a lot of people in this country who think there has been far too much immigration in recent years and want it to stop now. There are also a great number who are deeply concerned at how our sovereignty has been surrendered to Europe.

Labour has singularly failed to address immigration. The tories are too terrified to say anything after last time when Blair's spin machine managed to paint them all as racist for even mentioning it.

If you therefore are part of this body of people there are arguably 2 parties (maybe more but i don't know enough of minor fringe parties) with whom you can register your vote which sends a clear message to the mainstream parties. One is UKIP and the other is the BNP. If all the dissenters voted green it would not send the same message.

I don't think many people who voted BNP in the European elections would do so in a general election (at the moment I think people mistakenly think the european elections have very little significance anyway). It is therefore a protest vote but it is a protest vote founded on frustration over the failure of the mainstream parties to address particular issues which the BNP are prepared to take up - the main one of which is immigration.

Posted By: Jim on October 23rd 2009 at 13:06:43

Message Thread

The argument that the rise of the BNP is the fault of the failing mainstream parties. (General Chat) - cookpassbabtridge, Oct 23, 12:36:01
- for protest vote read 'I'm not a racist I (General Chat) - Pixelman, Oct 23, 16:50:07
- I agree with this, we've seen what protest votes can achieve, they've got 2 of the fuckers (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:51:03
  - There needs to be a box on the voting form that indicates a protest vote then (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 13:02:00
  - doesn't send a big enough message (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:58:31
  - I was gonna ask you something today based on something you posted... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 12:55:53
    - lol. Hitachi? (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:57:35
      - Can you remind what that was? It does ring a bell... (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 12:58:24
- guess we are fucked either way (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 23, 12:49:18
  - that's the term i was looking for (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:51:40
- I think the simple fact (a 7/10 FACT) is that this country (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:46:53
- hmmmm (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:39:14
  - what is the message you send by voting BNP? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:41:03
    - well i know that if it was me voting (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 23, 13:08:40
      - This is true though I'm not sure it all down to the greens (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:11:21
    - That you don't mind people thinking you're racist? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:42:40
      - since when were individuals votes made public? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:44:50
        
        OK. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:49:00
        
        yes but it also means you don't condemn (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:48:34
        
        typically you don't comdemn it no (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:50:34
        
        I don't believe that is what's happened here (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:52:43
        
        i'm sure many do (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:56:23
        
        Which is the problem. the BNP now have ACTUAL power. So how has that helped? (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:58:59
        
        but if you disagree with absolutely everything they say, what is the point (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:51:58
        
        And the party itself starts believing it has some kind of mandate (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:55:41
        
        this is totally different to the green issue (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:57:29
        
        The issue's not that different. (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 13:01:49
        
        yeah it was a protest to get their policies introduced (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:03:58
        
        it's called protest voting for a fucking reason (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:55:15
        
        were you on tilt? (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 13:00:06
        
        outsetted on the flop with 333 vs 888 twice in 5 minutes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:01:56
        
        and no i wasn't on tilt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:02:26
        
        ah wrong terminology (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 13:03:39
        
        incandescent with rage (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:04:18
    - that you are disillusioned by the major parties (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:42:10
      - 'they need to wake up' (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:44:26
        
        ffs (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:46:46
        
        don't get sweary SCC (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:49:26
        
        Its the former definitely but a bit of the latter as well (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 23, 13:06:43
        
        shirley giving a vote to a vile and odious group is deemed a protest (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 12:54:47
        
        i don't think it's the former at all you cheeky fucker (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:54:12
        
        OK. So that's clearer. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:57:55
        
        i just fucking told you (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:01:00
        
        Tricky is so owning you... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:07:02
        
        clearly is not (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:10:38
        
        Too much swearing - you have been... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:12:43
        
        swearing doesn't make you more convincing. Especially when you're contradicting yourself (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:06:12
        
        it was part of the same thing you cunt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:10:06
        
        for what it's worth, I think you're probably right this time (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:14:51
        
        aheam. Second sentence should read (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:16:08
        
        which can also mean not losing record of how many thousand (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:17:44
        
        and the last remark wasn't an insult (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:11:57
        
        what about the title though? ;o) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:17:40
        
        cunt is not offensive (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:19:12
        
        What is "the immigration issue'? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 13:04:03
        
        everything to do with immigration (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:06:21
        
        its only an issue because sections of the more right sided media have made it so (n/m) (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 13:12:29

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