OK. So that's clearer.

the former - that you don't think it is at all - was that protest votes for the BNP were a signal to the other parties that they need to move in the *direction* of the BNP.

So instead, you think that the views of the BNP are completely irrelevant in all this, and it's a more vague protest that the others just need to be 'better'.

My point is that I don't really know what that means. How does that improve things, when they've not been given any signal as to what 'better' means?

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on October 23rd 2009 at 12:57:55

Message Thread

The argument that the rise of the BNP is the fault of the failing mainstream parties. (General Chat) - cookpassbabtridge, Oct 23, 12:36:01
- for protest vote read 'I'm not a racist I (General Chat) - Pixelman, Oct 23, 16:50:07
- I agree with this, we've seen what protest votes can achieve, they've got 2 of the fuckers (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:51:03
  - There needs to be a box on the voting form that indicates a protest vote then (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 13:02:00
  - doesn't send a big enough message (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:58:31
  - I was gonna ask you something today based on something you posted... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 12:55:53
    - lol. Hitachi? (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:57:35
      - Can you remind what that was? It does ring a bell... (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 12:58:24
- guess we are fucked either way (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 23, 12:49:18
  - that's the term i was looking for (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:51:40
- I think the simple fact (a 7/10 FACT) is that this country (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:46:53
- hmmmm (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:39:14
  - what is the message you send by voting BNP? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:41:03
    - well i know that if it was me voting (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 23, 13:08:40
      - This is true though I'm not sure it all down to the greens (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:11:21
    - That you don't mind people thinking you're racist? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:42:40
      - since when were individuals votes made public? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:44:50
        
        OK. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:49:00
        
        yes but it also means you don't condemn (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:48:34
        
        typically you don't comdemn it no (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:50:34
        
        I don't believe that is what's happened here (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 12:52:43
        
        i'm sure many do (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:56:23
        
        Which is the problem. the BNP now have ACTUAL power. So how has that helped? (General Chat) - megson, Oct 23, 12:58:59
        
        but if you disagree with absolutely everything they say, what is the point (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:51:58
        
        And the party itself starts believing it has some kind of mandate (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 12:55:41
        
        this is totally different to the green issue (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:57:29
        
        The issue's not that different. (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 13:01:49
        
        yeah it was a protest to get their policies introduced (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:03:58
        
        it's called protest voting for a fucking reason (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:55:15
        
        were you on tilt? (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 13:00:06
        
        outsetted on the flop with 333 vs 888 twice in 5 minutes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:01:56
        
        and no i wasn't on tilt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:02:26
        
        ah wrong terminology (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 23, 13:03:39
        
        incandescent with rage (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:04:18
    - that you are disillusioned by the major parties (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:42:10
      - 'they need to wake up' (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:44:26
        
        ffs (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:46:46
        
        don't get sweary SCC (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:49:26
        
        Its the former definitely but a bit of the latter as well (General Chat) - Jim, Oct 23, 13:06:43
        
        shirley giving a vote to a vile and odious group is deemed a protest (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 12:54:47
        
        i don't think it's the former at all you cheeky fucker (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 12:54:12
        
        OK. So that's clearer. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 12:57:55
        
        i just fucking told you (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:01:00
        
        Tricky is so owning you... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:07:02
        
        clearly is not (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:10:38
        
        Too much swearing - you have been... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Oct 23, 13:12:43
        
        swearing doesn't make you more convincing. Especially when you're contradicting yourself (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:06:12
        
        it was part of the same thing you cunt (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:10:06
        
        for what it's worth, I think you're probably right this time (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:14:51
        
        aheam. Second sentence should read (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:16:08
        
        which can also mean not losing record of how many thousand (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:17:44
        
        and the last remark wasn't an insult (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:11:57
        
        what about the title though? ;o) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 23, 13:17:40
        
        cunt is not offensive (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:19:12
        
        What is "the immigration issue'? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Oct 23, 13:04:03
        
        everything to do with immigration (General Chat) - SCC 28, Oct 23, 13:06:21
        
        its only an issue because sections of the more right sided media have made it so (n/m) (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 23, 13:12:29

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