Have you ever seen Manufacturing Consent, Worzel?
In it, Chomsky talks about the way the centre-right and its media manage threats from left and right. Rather than bar their leading lights from any media representation (which would provide a justified sense of exclusion around which they could rally), they invite such people to represent themselves in the media, and then prevent them representing themselves effectively through such simple techniques as cutting them off.
Well worth watching, it's very insightful (and long).
Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on October 22nd 2009 at 21:30:53
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- RT @bmcmichael: RT@psbook Sounds like Griffin is a complete car crash on #bbcqt. Check out (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 21:07:12
- RT @DavidWooding Cheers as Straw tears into Griffin: "We only won WW1 2 bcs we wr joined b (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 21:07:43
- RT @DavidWoodingGriffin on Question Time all over. Hes left. Worth watching. He gets an ab (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 21:09:09
- actually quite excited about watching it. (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 22, 21:13:02
- sounds like an hour of 4 people on 1, and the audience agreeing (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:14:17
- A friend said he was expecting "a slightly more intellectual Jerry Springer". (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:23:55
- indeed. sad insecure fuckers will rubberneck BBC1 at 10:35 (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:17:49
- And people who want a cheap laugh at the expense of an awful human being (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:27:07
- What's sad and insecure about enjoying a nasty bigot being humiliated? (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:25:38
- it's not him who is being humiliated though (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:33:00
- Possibly the fact that one of them on the panel (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:29:45
- I don't understand - sorry (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:30:57
- he's saying that Zimbabwe has done a lot more than Nick Griffin (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 22:13:32
- I just didn't understand the bit about 'taking the highest ground' (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 22:18:15
- ah, well that'd explain why there's no place for Mugabe (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 22:17:16
- he's saying that Zimbabwe has done a lot more than Nick Griffin (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 22:13:32
- I don't understand - sorry (n/m) (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:30:57
- what time is it on? (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 21:17:38
- 10:35 (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 22:15:02
- thanks ralf (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 22:35:33
- 10:35 (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 22:15:02
- almost a spack pack if you like :-) (n/m) (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 22, 21:17:18
- fuck it, the cunt deserves to be made a mockery of (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 21:19:10
- Yeah, probably does. But to brag about freedom of speech and whatever (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:23:13
- good of you to stick up for the right of people to speak shite without response (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:34:04
- I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sorry you see it that way (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:35:17
- no probs (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:39:26
- He's an elected member in a democracy. He's entitled to go on the show (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:46:03
- no probs (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:39:26
- I'm not sticking up for anyone. I'm sorry you see it that way (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:35:17
- 'pre-loaded with anger - lol (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:30:02
- That isn't what I'm saying (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:31:28
- No-one is bragging pants (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:28:03
- 'if tonights show just has people cutting him off and not letting him speak' (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:24:56
- maybe it is just me? (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:30:26
- Errr (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:34:42
- Indeed - if it was primarily the expenses scandal that bothered them, why not turn Left? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:42:30
- The left is (General Chat) - romayellow, Oct 22, 21:59:53
- Well exactly. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 22:02:50
- the conservatives will get back into power (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 22:16:38
- Well exactly. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 22:02:50
- The left is (General Chat) - romayellow, Oct 22, 21:59:53
- Think what you like, it's a free country (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:39:33
- it certainly is not a free country (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:41:46
- i don't drink beer (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:42:45
- neither do I (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:45:37
- no need charles (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:47:08
- well looky here (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 21:50:34
- no need charles (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:47:08
- neither do I (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:45:37
- i don't drink beer (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:42:45
- it certainly is not a free country (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:41:46
- Indeed - if it was primarily the expenses scandal that bothered them, why not turn Left? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:42:30
- No, it's not just you at all. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:31:35
- That's very good and difficult to argue with (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:41:49
- Errr (General Chat) - The Judge, Oct 22, 21:34:42
- exactly, that neatly describes most politicians' debating style (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 21:27:37
- Have you ever seen Manufacturing Consent, Worzel? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:30:53
- I haven't but I will do as soon as I finish this mountain of work before me (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 21:36:52
- Have you ever seen Manufacturing Consent, Worzel? (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 22, 21:30:53
- maybe it is just me? (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:30:26
- good of you to stick up for the right of people to speak shite without response (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 21:34:04
- his statement to the press says "that he got a few punches in" (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 22, 21:21:05
- Yeah, probably does. But to brag about freedom of speech and whatever (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:23:13
- fuck it, the cunt deserves to be made a mockery of (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 21:19:10
- sounds like an hour of 4 people on 1, and the audience agreeing (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 21:14:17
- oh no (General Chat) - Tombs, Oct 22, 21:11:54
- actually quite excited about watching it. (General Chat) - nixon, Oct 22, 21:13:02
- RT @DavidWoodingGriffin on Question Time all over. Hes left. Worth watching. He gets an ab (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 21:09:09
- RT @DavidWooding Cheers as Straw tears into Griffin: "We only won WW1 2 bcs we wr joined b (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 22, 21:07:43
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