I don't like the idea of taking a player we know isn't good enough to start

and this dead ball thing rather confuses me. Why do you want a deadball specialist availabvle to bring on? Do we know we'll win more free-kicks and corners near the end of a game or something?

Either his set pieces mean he's worth having on the pitch, at the expense of all the things he doesn't do (like making runs), or they don't. But I don't see why those qualities get more valuable as a game goes on.

(Indeed, if anything, I'd have thought it's the reverse - *pace* is what you'd like to have in an impact sub.)

Posted By: Tricky Hawes on October 15th 2009 at 18:15:49

Message Thread

Don Fabio Knows Best On Beckham... (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 15, 17:39:19
- agree with pretty much all of that (Other Football) - Dave in France, Oct 15, 17:47:25
- he's clearly gonna take him. I think it's wrong though. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 17:42:38
  - Fabio's been talking about that short corner too (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, Oct 15, 17:53:10
    - fair old shot on him SWP, that was an exocet of a shot (Other Football) - Tombs, Oct 15, 17:57:32
  - it iwill be a disgrace if beckham goes (Other Football) - Tombs, Oct 15, 17:52:33
    - this is just like the hucks argument (Other Football) - Dave in France, Oct 15, 17:58:12
      - minutes. (Other Football) - Dave in France, Oct 15, 17:59:23
  - why do you hate beckham so much? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 17:52:25
    - it's a disease (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:54:39
      - I must admit I had it until I saw Beckham play for Real Madrid (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 15, 17:56:25
        
        I didn't ever hate him I don't think (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 17:58:27
        
        I'm with SCC (sadly) - I think he's worth having in the squad. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 15, 18:02:30
        
        I don't like the idea of taking a player we know isn't good enough to start (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:15:49
        
        Utter crap (n/m) (Other Football) - Holden Caulfield, Oct 15, 21:12:08
        
        you have to be fishing here (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:19:02
        
        right, thanks for that insight SCC (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:22:51
        
        why do you need to remember others ffs (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:25:24
        
        Why shouldn't he start games then? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:26:33
        
        isn't it called a squad? (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:34:33
        
        sweary mike. And Otto. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:36:07
        
        well they are wrong (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:41:59
        
        yes i wouldn't start him (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:37:18
        
        because he doesn't have the fucking legs!!!!! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:28:39
        
        cos clearly beckham makes no difference! (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:22:30
        
        right. Doesn't really answer my question though. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:25:30
        
        more players in the box, more reckless challenges, more tired, late tackles (Other Football) - Dave in France, Oct 15, 18:30:06
        
        indeed (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:35:02
        
        oh right. Just thaty someone said below that (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:38:30
        
        i said that's not what it's all about (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:40:54
        
        wow calm down kiddo (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:45:50
        
        i is chilled (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:48:20
        
        ok (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:50:23
        
        cheers bud (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:50:52
        
        no probs blud (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:52:30
        
        unless you honestly think it's about that sole fucking reason (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:42:33
        
        you're a fucking cock jockey (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:27:43
        
        Step away from the internet (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 18:31:01
        
        calm down, sweary mike. It's only football. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:30:15
        
        if he can last a half and make a difference then that's enough (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:33:32
        
        why was beckham brought on vs croatia (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:30:02
        
        don't be sad mate (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:03:45
        
        what about when he got sent off against the argies? (Other Football) - Dave in France, Oct 15, 18:02:26
        
        Was trying to remember back to then, but I don't think I did (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 15, 18:21:05
        
        that was badly annoying, but he didn't really deserve a red for that (n/m) (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 15, 18:13:38
      - Like a morbid obsession with the past (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 17:55:27
        
        you'd rather have actimel in the squad than beckham (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:02:07
        
        which would be more expensive? (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:03:52
        
        in terms of cost/results (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:05:12
        
        Crazy talk (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 18:02:46
        
        no, they call it "jealousy" (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:57:10
        
        They call a morbid obsession with the past jealousy or envy? (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 18:00:45
        
        looks like Capello has a "morbid obsession" with the past (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:03:31
        
        I wouldn't compare Cappello to Brown though. Bit silly really (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 18:05:14
        
        brown? (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Oct 15, 18:06:53
        
        um.....?? (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 18:06:11
        
        Glad you both agree (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 18:07:37
    - "I'm wicked and I'm crazy. oh...oh, don't you wanna save me?" (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Oct 15, 17:53:21
  - agreed, we should take Pele instead (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, Oct 15, 17:51:49
    - we should try and buy that Ribery bloke (Other Football) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 15, 17:54:19

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