I'll try not to spark off another pointless debate

but what I personally believe is that they allowed both of these events to happen, knowing the likely benefits that could be reaped.

A very similar case from the past would be that of the USS Maine, which blew up off Habana and kicked off the US-Spanish war

Posted By: Worzel Scrimmage on October 7th 2009 at 21:47:30

Message Thread

Funny how you presume that posters are quite normal (NCFC) - The Judge, Oct 7, 19:46:16
- ^^^Indeed Judge^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Holden Caulfield, Oct 7, 21:18:54
- Oh, what's happened? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 7, 20:58:37
  - Here's my summary :) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 21:01:31
  - he doesn't think there are any holes in official info on 7/7 (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 21:01:17
  - Scroll down to Worzel's '7/7 ripple effect' post below (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:00:59
    - 7/7 conspiracy theories? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 7, 21:26:22
      - NOTE: this is not an invitation to start arguing again... (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 7, 21:28:00
        
        My friend came up with the best argument against the "America did it" 9/11 theory (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:30:24
        
        I'll try not to spark off another pointless debate (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 21:47:30
        
        As I understand that one (and mindful of kicking off debates) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 7, 21:59:38
        
        that's what I mean, it may or may not have been self-perpetrated, an accident or an attack (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 22:30:48
        
        Lol - but why let facts get in the way eh Worzel? (n/m) (NCFC) - The Judge, Oct 7, 22:08:38
        
        what the fuck are you on about? I haven't postulated any theory about why or how it was (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 22:32:28
        
        letwhen you actually come up with a coherent argument against anything I've said (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 22:34:33
        
        and there's my answer all mouth and no fucking trousers (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 23:24:26
        
        ahem! (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 22:13:46
    - it is ever thus. This isn't the ideal forum for debate (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 21:03:51
      - Yeah, I say much the same thing below. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:06:24
        
        indeed, I thought it mght be more interesting on here than the Oink Un though! (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 21:08:03
        
        The Oink'Un is just piss boring. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:09:49
        
        I find it hard to struggle through more than one or two humourless threads on there (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 21:21:00
        
        But then you stumble across my amazing gags, like everyone else (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 21:25:39
        
        A man walks into a doctor's surgery and says "Doctor, I keep thinking I'm a moth!" (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:27:53
        
        How many UEA students does it take to change a lightbulb (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 21:33:47
        
        How many Red Hot Chilli Peppers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 21:34:33
        
        A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 21:46:40
        
        keep up the high standards... (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 21:27:13
        
        What's blue and fluffy? (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 21:30:17
        
        Well, I did ask for it... (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 21:41:46
- You would be hard pressed to assess anyone's true character on this board. (NCFC) - Snakey, Oct 7, 20:44:40
  - Hard pressed to assess S Express (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 7, 20:50:21
    - didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda didda (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:55:31
      - Terrible track. Almost as bad as Yazz. Terrible music era. (n/m) (NCFC) - Snakey, Oct 7, 20:59:04
- I've always been of the opposite opinion (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:13:58
  - I'd like to take umbrage with that, Tombs. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:15:50
    - I find most of the madness on here (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:22:28
      - ^ madness (n/m) (NCFC) - legendhuckerby, Oct 7, 20:31:19
        
        To the theme of the Hamlet adverts. Madness...... (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:32:55
        
        'I might be paranoid, but.....' (n/m) (NCFC) - legendhuckerby, Oct 7, 20:42:57
        
        it doesn't mean you're out to get me? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:43:36
        
        *not* (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:44:18
        
        ..... (NCFC) - Small, Oct 7, 20:52:24
      - eh? (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:27:15
        
        Cos this thread (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:31:05
        
        oh. i missed all the previous i guess to be fair (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:39:13
        
        some of it yeah (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:40:45
        
        Agreed. The answer to all this has always been simple. (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:33:35
        
        precisely why I haven't insulted anyone except in response to judge's unwarranted insults (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 20:46:01
        
        Fuck you (n/m) (NCFC) - Angry in Switzerland, Oct 7, 20:36:18
        
        Go and shove a Toblerone up your arse. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:41:15
        
        We all know what arguing on the Internet is like, don't we? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:35:58
        
        He knows he was wrong... (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Oct 7, 21:27:10
        
        Yep, and that is the beauty (and horror) of it all. It's not real life children. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:40:54
        
        shit (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:40:49
    - indeed she do Otto (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:19:09
      - Himmers, innit. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:19:56
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - legendhuckerby, Oct 7, 20:28:08
        
        Good lord (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:24:12
        
        Pants is SCC, Pants is Otto, Pants is The Judge, Pants is Luther Blissett, Pants is Tombs (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:28:19
        
        But... (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:30:38
        
        Tehwatch. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:30:53
        
        Number Six turns out to be Number One in the end or suffen. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Oct 7, 20:54:46
        
        No further questions your honour (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:36:32
        
        Brilliantly done sir. (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:41:26
        
        Not at all - anyone could have told him that. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:42:25
        
        I didn't make any sense of it (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:46:47
        
        ^^^ Was in charge of the search for the Yorkshire Ripper ^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:50:36
        
        haha (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:56:00
        
        No serial offender likes a shoddy copycat. I understand your pain. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:43:40
        
        I've shoddily copied Tehwatch a number of times. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:49:56
        
        Open D with a capo at the 2nd (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 7, 20:55:03
        
        ^^^Not shoddy. That's an orignal right there.^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:51:45
        
        Oh, KDDD ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:53:34
        
        Has pantsbot broken down? (n/m) (NCFC) - Small, Oct 7, 20:57:54
        
        Pantsbot works - it's the operator at fault. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:59:01
        
        Am I the only one (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Oct 7, 20:56:00
        
        I don't really understand why it matters. I've always found it very funny. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:57:43
        
        ^^^exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:44:19
        
        Could stop yourself, could you? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:43:12
        
        *'nt (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:43:25
        
        *reassured* (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 7, 20:30:30
        
        rather that than fingered as selwyn's missus (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 20:31:46
    - I like to think that we're all (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:17:44
      - lol (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:23:21
      - The entire board is Himmers on a wind up? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 20:18:44
        
        Haha (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 20:24:52
        
        It's whatever you want it to be sweetcheeks (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 7, 20:26:39
- ??? (n/m) (NCFC) - Edward Monkton, Oct 7, 20:07:48
- apsolutelly (NCFC) - Dave in France, Oct 7, 20:02:22
- well yes, but what did you have for lunch? (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Oct 7, 20:00:57
- lol (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Oct 7, 19:59:25
- roffle rovers (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Oct 7, 19:54:43
- How very dare you! (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Oct 7, 19:53:06
  - Toad in the hole counter revolutionary (NCFC) - The Judge, Oct 7, 19:56:44
    - ROFLages in Yorkshire Pudding (n/m) (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, Oct 7, 20:02:42
- You're referring to the Tehwatch hysteria, I take it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Oct 7, 19:51:06
- rofl (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Oct 7, 19:50:36
- there you go again, insults (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 19:49:23
  - watch out - THEY'RE ALL OUT TO GET YOU! (n/m) (NCFC) - The Judge, Oct 7, 19:50:26
    - try not to be silly now (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 7, 20:11:40

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