For Windows, I think you'll find other music managers with more features than iTunes

and they may even support syncing with an iPod; but you'd need iTunes to update it.

Those Creative music players that camcan mentioned do get good reviews; but I bought one for a friend and it broke within months.

Most people who get iPods seem to love them; but their one weakness seems to be that the battery is not replaceable without returning it to Apple. And some don't rate the headphones

Posted By: BerlinCanary on September 29th 2009 at 17:50:33

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MP3 player advice needed please (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 16:49:49
- I've got one of these dn41 (General Chat) - pants, Sep 29, 17:59:13
  - do you really get 52 hours from the battery? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 18:42:01
- I bought Mr C a Zen (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 29, 16:53:15
  - I've already got a tiny little 2G Sony one, but it doesn't have a (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 16:55:10
    - screen display is quite good (General Chat) - camcan, Sep 29, 17:03:11
- Oh and preferably somewhat cheaper than a Nano. (n/m) (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 16:50:25
  - what's wrong with ipods? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 16:52:00
    - I don't like Itunes and Ipods seem very expensive, I imagine because they (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 16:53:11
      - They seem to cost about as much as other mp3 players (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 17:02:50
        
        What I don't like though is having to convert all my ripped (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 17:06:26
        
        But you're happy to have your music files in proprietary WMA format (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 29, 17:34:06
        
        Mmm. maybe I haven't investigated it enough. To be honest, I'm never (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 17:40:00
        
        For Windows, I think you'll find other music managers with more features than iTunes (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 29, 17:50:33
        
        I replaced the battery on mine. Wasn't too hard (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 18:34:39
        
        Can't you use any headphones? I am very pickie as most hurt my ears. (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 17:57:49
        
        I believe the connector is standard, so any headphones should work (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 29, 18:19:53
        
        try these. I got some recently and they really are the business (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 18:36:27
        
        ... (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 18:43:27
        
        I'm not sure about that (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Sep 29, 17:25:20
        
        I've never found where the Itunes ones live. I had my sons (General Chat) - DNB41, Sep 29, 17:27:11
        
        Do a 'get info' on the track and it tells you (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Sep 29, 17:35:45

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