I totally agree. 'new' labour has destroyed Britains democracy by taking the centre ground

and there is no way back for labour now, it will be 20 years in the Wilderness.

Didn't I see some polls putting 'new' labour 3rd (and in some cases 4th?)

Its a mess, and its a mess that 'new' labour has caused.

Posted By: shoddy on June 2nd 2009 at 14:53:45

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Jacqui Smith to resign as Home Secretary (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 2, 14:20:58
- She took her time! Stepping down or being reshuffled? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 2, 14:24:54
  - She wanted out 2 months ago (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:28:34
    - Trouble is, we'll then end up with Cameron and his links with (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:30:01
      - Linking up with Latvia seems a cracking idea (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 2, 14:34:34
      - ha ha, thats a bit unfair. Euro politics is even worse! (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:32:32
        
        Yeah, I know but that's who he is aligning with in Yerp (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:35:35
        
        That is all quite old news tho. (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:36:27
        
        Yes, but ceebeebee can't bear the fact that the Tories are about to be back in power (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 2, 14:45:22
        
        You are oh so very wrong OG, apart from the Thatcher bit. (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:50:14
        
        Yes, but the Tories will be just as disastrous (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 2, 14:49:36
        
        They'll just be more of the same. New broom, same, tired old ideas (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:56:23
        
        I totally agree. 'new' labour has destroyed Britains democracy by taking the centre ground (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:53:45
        
        It's interesting in a way (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 2, 15:01:09
        
        Smith, real waste that. I'd love to see what he would have done in power (General Chat) - megson, Jun 2, 15:17:22
        
        Brown is unelectable (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 15:10:44
        
        Haha - good point (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 2, 15:13:56
        
        as I have said, he will be history in 6 weeks. (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 15:16:01
        
        The latter means that the former will never be tested (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 15:12:08
        
        Exactly and it means there is no Left wing to counter all the right wing groupings. (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:57:59
        
        Well, there are (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Jun 2, 15:02:49
        
        I blame Fatcher (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 2, 15:00:36
        
        Well it is her fault. Her success and the unelectability of the (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 15:10:10
        
        i blame the unions... (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 2, 15:05:25
        
        Had enough of being CCTV'd ? (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 15:08:33
    - that would be greast, but cant we make it 6 days? (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:29:30
      - Except it'll just be swapping one (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:30:45
        
        yes.....but ........ (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:32:19
        
        ha ha, priceless. (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:33:14
        
        or....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:34:27
        
        I dont think the next UK Prime Minister could be french, do you? (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:35:36
        
        i think they could be (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 2, 14:37:38
        
        The French President is Romanian (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:37:21
        
        The Treasurer of the UKIP is Finnish I think. (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 2, 14:39:37
  - i think resign was the key word (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 2, 14:25:27
    - It's called saving face - you jump before you are pushed (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:27:39
      - ^^^ yepsums (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 2, 14:29:26
      - a shame football managers don't do the same! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 2, 14:29:15
        
        They do but it has a different name - (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:31:26
        
        yepsums (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 2, 14:31:47
        
        Peter Grant did (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jun 2, 14:30:04
        
        defo agreed a pay off imo (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 2, 14:31:27
    - tho it is meant to be a reshuffle (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 2, 14:26:32
- Delia Smith to stay as NCFC Director (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:23:21
  - Really? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:26:38
    - yes, its breaking news! you heard it here first. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:27:59
      - Crikey, I'm indebted (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Jun 2, 14:31:49
        
        thats ok...... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 2, 14:33:43

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