Hey, read up properly about the disaster before you start making throw-away comments
I don't know how old you were but there were monumental cock ups on a grand scale that contributed to the whole thing. People who have only gone to football matches since after 1992 (when stadiums changed due to Taylor Rpt) will not understand how different grounds were both inside, and just as much, on the outside also.
Police opened a gate when the shouldnt have. There should have been more organisation outside. An accident in the Penines contributed to people arriving late. Terrible stadium design - the same thing almost happened at the same end in the 1981 semi final Spurs v Wolves. People were not directed left or right after the gate was opened - that s criminal. The standing area was supposed to hold 2000 max and had been recommended to be reduced to 1600. There were 3000 in there at 3pm. Why was the overcrowding not recognised when both outside pans were not even one third full? See for yourself on the pictures - its clear. The Police box was right above one of the empty pens in the corner, why did they not see? PC Duckenfield was told of some over-crowding but did nothing. He froze and took no decision. Why was only 1 ambulance allowed onto the pitch when a whole line waited outside the stadium? The poor sods in that pen could do nothing as nobody helped them. The police completely failed on that day.
I could go on and on and on. A small part might have been down to Liverpool fans, BUT, this was such a minor part in the overall outcome and is recognised so in the Taylor report.
Please do not have a go at Liverpool and their fans about this disaster (and I am nothing to do with them by the way). It was a terrible disaster and I remember it clearly as a kid.
When u read about some of the stuff what happened, and I wouldn't want to even start explaining exactly what on this messageboard - but go read 'The Day of the Hillsborough Disaster' by Liverpool University Press and I assure you that you will not get through that book without shedding more than a few tears.
Posted By: Wayne Biggins on April 14th 2009 at 22:50:17
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- All this "20 years since Hillsborough" obsession by the BBC, ITV, newspapers etc. (Other Football) - South stand corner, Apr 14, 22:05:57
- Jesus (Other Football) - The Judge, Apr 14, 23:39:46
- Totally agree Judgey (Other Football) - duke of york, Apr 15, 00:31:20
- Perhaps the people who made the silly remarks would like to read some of these (Other Football) - Klobo04, Apr 15, 03:28:24
- Totally agree Judgey (Other Football) - duke of york, Apr 15, 00:31:20
- Hey, read up properly about the disaster before you start making throw-away comments (Other Football) - Wayne Biggins, Apr 14, 22:52:38
- Let me get this straight (Other Football) - east of hampstead, Apr 14, 23:40:03
- WW II (n/m) (Other Football) - shoddy, Apr 14, 23:27:14
- and anyway, there's more important matters like a few emails (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Apr 14, 22:36:07
- Phil Neals did (Other Football) - Small, Apr 14, 22:10:22
- here here - with you on that one (Other Football) - green n yella beaver, Apr 14, 22:08:32
- i feel sorry for anyone who goes to a match and does't make it home (Other Football) - strap_on sally, Apr 14, 22:08:28
- Hey, read up properly about the disaster before you start making throw-away comments (Other Football) - Wayne Biggins, Apr 14, 22:50:17
- tomorrow should be fun on here (n/m) (Other Football) - Dave in France, Apr 14, 23:11:05
- mebbe (Other Football) - Tombs, Apr 14, 22:14:06
- Remember the minutes silence around the country for Ken Bigley?? (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 14, 22:15:11
- Wasn't it Boris Johnson who called them "Mawkish". (Other Football) - South stand corner, Apr 14, 22:22:42
- good spot. (n/m) (Other Football) - shoddy, Apr 14, 22:25:15
- madness. Britain loves a good excuse to collectively blub over no marks like jade goody (Other Football) - Tombs, Apr 14, 22:20:24
- The original Double Glazing Salesman. (Other Football) - South stand corner, Apr 14, 22:26:43
- Wasn't it Boris Johnson who called them "Mawkish". (Other Football) - South stand corner, Apr 14, 22:22:42
- Remember the minutes silence around the country for Ken Bigley?? (n/m) (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 14, 22:15:11
- Very true - police, FA & some of the Liverpool fans to blame (Other Football) - South_West_Canary, Apr 14, 22:12:59
- stop that you'll go to hell - how dare you blame them (n/m) (Other Football) - green n yella beaver, Apr 14, 22:09:53
- Hey, read up properly about the disaster before you start making throw-away comments (Other Football) - Wayne Biggins, Apr 14, 22:50:17
- Jesus (Other Football) - The Judge, Apr 14, 23:39:46
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