Hard to tell isn't it ? I once lost my job with 62 other people from a company of

75.

Just decided to close their IT department and go back to pure marketing consulting. And promptly went backrupt.

What is happening to you will happen to my current industry.

Unfortunately these days the only way to have job "security" is to obtain the skills, qualifications and experience to be flexible enough to move between industries to a certain extent.

That's what Waghorn has seen coming, to give him credit, and tried to do. Still hate his particular style and not convinced on his business model but he has at least seen it coming.

As in 1991 and to a lesser extent 2001, it's not really the economic crisis forcing it, it's just providing a great excuse for a clearout.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on March 10th 2009 at 13:05:49

Message Thread

Please read this if you're interested (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:42:23
- Fuck'em...went for a job there once and did'nt get it.... So fuck off Archant!!! (General Chat) - Norfolk un Way, Mar 10, 13:14:51
  - Shut uip Rick (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 13:17:50
    - lol (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:18:19
- I support the local rags etc but like any business if sales are down and they can't (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 12:55:26
  - And i think archant really did the club damage with the Cullum non story which caused (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 12:57:56
  - 54 jobs is nearly 30% (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:57:45
    - 450 have just lost jobs at the company I work for, where's their fucking campaign? (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 12:58:53
      - Don't know - why didn't they start one? (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:00:56
        
        What points did I miss? (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 13:08:39
        
        Why was it necessary for a Bryan Gunn for manager website campaign? (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:12:37
        
        And look where that fucking got us Bryan 'no wins' Gunn (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 13:22:02
        
        Coo Pea Are (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 10, 13:31:07
        
        oh fuck yeah (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 13:32:24
        
        "one win" (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:29:53
        
        Yes I'm a goon (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 13:32:35
        
        well fuck off and suport arsenal then! you gooner! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:33:27
        
        To be honest, Ms. Gunn didn't make herself too popular with that either. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:13:35
      - Cunt (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:59:56
        
        No, that's just you (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:02:52
  - "keep me my job" basically. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:57:06
    - Who is saying they are more important? (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:58:51
      - You. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:59:43
        
        Where? (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:03:01
      - Who the fuck are you Arthur Fucking Scargill (n/m) (General Chat) - stringersrevenge, Mar 10, 12:59:21
        
        Rumbled (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:03:24
- tweeted it (General Chat) - camcan, Mar 10, 12:53:45
  - Twas always so Camcan, always so - (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 10, 13:01:08
    - but regional news does matter (General Chat) - camcan, Mar 10, 13:02:45
      - weren't the Beeb and ITV planning to go 'ultra local' with some of their news services? (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 10, 13:06:57
        
        Would be a start. Our "local" news seems to be mainly about (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 10, 13:10:27
        
        disagree, there always seems to be plenty about Cambridge whe i watch it (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 10, 13:15:03
        
        Beeb dropped it because of commercial bods (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:09:22
        
        So it wasn't considered to be financially viable ? (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:11:51
        
        anglia already went...... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:11:19
        
        I mean no more Anglia news - all central ITN (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:13:24
        
        yep....its on the cards. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:14:36
  - We all have busy lives cc and a minute in the digital age is a lifetime (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Mar 10, 12:57:00
  - Checked the EN yesterday in the newsagent (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:54:36
    - i hope you bought it (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 10, 13:00:52
      - I bought them all (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:02:27
    - Maybe you should have, as a protest. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:57:49
    - as the actress said to the bishop (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Mar 10, 12:55:09
- maybe... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 12:50:44
  - The EN is urging the fans to back the team (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:53:34
    - I doubt it. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:58:03
      - depends if doncaster agrees to continue to write a column. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:03:46
  - Yes, local journalists INSTRUCTING Doncaster about PR will make all the difference (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 10, 12:52:05
    - .... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 12:55:59
- How can I know if I'm interested without reading it? (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 10, 12:48:31
  - Just join the group man! (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:52:43
    - Out-of-character, I am going to actually. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 10, 13:06:30
      - Which decent businessman would take it seriously though ? (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:10:27
    - I'm not joining any group which tells me what it "needs" me to do. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:55:07
      - I wasn't asking you (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:59:14
- Nobody cares about quality anymore. No-one takes time to read anything through, or to be (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:47:01
  - More ludicrous sweeping statements (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:52:31
    - OK, "very few people". They want fast food, fast news, headlines only. You're not the only (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:54:41
      - You're such a cunt (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:55:34
        
        I'm not the one starting a FB group. No sneer, just seriously got to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:59:17
        
        I didn't start it either (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:02:02
        
        although.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:07:36
        
        Did I ever say Archant was any different? (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:14:32
        
        i think you're surprised at peoples reaction on here....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:16:34
        
        Start one for local jobs for local people while you're at it (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:16:15
        
        Hard to tell isn't it ? I once lost my job with 62 other people from a company of (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:05:49
- But are they not losing money cos circulation is down? Is that why they're doing it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Mar 10, 12:46:18
  - Profits were ONLY ?22.2m last year (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:51:34
    - There are plenty of firms who make a loss and don't make job cuts (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 10, 13:10:45
      - new technology intut (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 10, 13:22:17
        
        What Holden doesn't know is that 7 years ago Archant turned down the chance to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:25:23
      - depends on what investors are willing to invest innit! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 10, 13:12:25
  - Can't say I could ever have accused Archant of quality journalism. Ever. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:47:46
    - Ludicrous sweeping statement (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:50:48
      - No. I really can't think of anything. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 12:56:07
        
        What a twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 12:59:39
        
        We've all been telling him that for years... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Mar 10, 13:04:51
        
        I never argued! I look forward to seeing a link to the cutting edge journalism I have so (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:07:48
        
        You must have read an incredible amount of local journalism... (General Chat) - Holden Caulfield, Mar 10, 13:16:16
        
        No but I have read the EDP and Evening News (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:19:27
        
        ...but I was unaware that the target audience were extremely experienced local (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:21:26
        
        *and a (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 10, 13:19:46

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