I think Brandy's point is that the government has been brazenly lying to us ...

... about something very important. As it did over Iraq. And everyone's knows they're doing it, and nobody is being held accountable. Which is what is making the "War on Terror" possible, and consequently what led to the 7th July attacks which killed people who had nothing to do with the neo-conservative project ...

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on August 18th 2005 at 00:47:49

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How can Charles Clarke says the shooting of Mr de Menezes (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:32:03
- If one wanted to talk in ruthless terms it appears that the team that did (General Chat) - oh arr, Aug 18, 02:19:51
- As William Burroughs once said, a paranoiac is someone who knows all the facts. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:42:28
  - Anyone who listens to William Burroughs .... (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 00:47:07
    - Yes please! (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:49:36
      - FWIW... (General Chat) - Arganth, Aug 18, 01:17:01
        
        And ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 01:18:45
      - I read Naked Luch abot once every seven or eight months or so. (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 00:54:15
        
        Missing 'n's and premature 'enter'. (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 00:56:32
        
        Lol - maybe I'll go back to Burroughs (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:57:54
        
        I firmly believe that you can only really appreciate Bill ... (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 01:10:41
- I'm not sure the truth has come out (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 18, 00:37:52
  - good post Clare (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Aug 18, 02:21:48
  - well said (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:41:19
  - nah aint gonna happen... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:40:20
    - hardly fair though? (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 18, 00:41:26
      - and if guy blows himself up (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:43:41
        
        but why make up he was wearing a bulky jacket when he wasn't?... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:45:06
        
        Personally I don't know what he was wearing... (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 18, 00:51:08
        
        what do you think? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:53:17
        
        You only have to look at the pictures today to decide... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:55:27
        
        Ahh, I haven't seen any photos (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 18, 00:57:39
        
        Well CCTV footage apparently shows him... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 01:00:44
        
        cos thats the police for you (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Aug 18, 00:50:03
        
        to be fair to em (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:51:23
        
        you forgot a FACT there, poor form. (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 18, 00:53:07
        
        but it was a serious post (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:54:06
        
        but it wasnt made up by BBC etc (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 18, 00:46:22
        
        indeed (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:46:08
        
        I think Brandy's point is that the government has been brazenly lying to us ... (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:47:49
        
        but what can be done? (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 18, 00:49:19
        
        Would love to debate this but I'm supposed to be doing my dissertation (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:52:39
        
        people in power always lie (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:49:12
        
        Which is why I can never trust them (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:49:54
        
        no one trusts MPs! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kabaddi Holt, Aug 18, 00:50:24
        
        Yeh but I don't trust my manager... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:53:13
        
        No offence but (General Chat) - romayellow, Aug 18, 08:28:05
        
        Yourself? (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 18, 00:58:39
        
        Nah... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 01:04:23
        
        So thats not equal then (General Chat) - Clare, Aug 18, 09:06:34
        
        ah yes that though will possibly be alot worst news (n/m) (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:47:10
  - Go Clare... (General Chat) - LeonTheNinjaTurtle, Aug 18, 00:39:52
- Sounds like the police restrained him before they shot him, from the report. (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 18, 00:35:51
  - Which is the lie and which is the truth? (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 18, 01:35:21
    - very interesting post Creosote and quite right to think about the motive behind the leak (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Aug 18, 02:26:35
  - The whole story when it broke made no sense to me... (General Chat) - Brandonio, Aug 18, 00:42:46
    - then IMHO (General Chat) - SCC 26, Aug 18, 00:44:54
    - You know 'idiots'? (n/m) (General Chat) - LeonTheNinjaTurtle, Aug 18, 00:43:41
      - Idiots (General Chat) - Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 18, 01:52:30
        
        did they somehow think body belt ????? As you say wheres the rucksack ? (n/m) (General Chat) - oh arr, Aug 18, 02:28:24
- Re: why? (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 00:35:03
  - Should be "Re: how?" (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Aug 18, 00:36:47
- OK..neck on the line time... (General Chat) - LeonTheNinjaTurtle, Aug 18, 00:34:59

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