BTW, I was actually trying a discussion point. That Dutch team

was comprised of Van der Sar, Frank de Boer, Jaap Stam, Philip Cocu, van Bronckhorst, Davids, Seedorf, Aaron Winter, Bergkamp, Kluivert, Makaay, Overmars, Ronald de Boer, van Hooijdonk et al

So they were s**t then ?

But yes, Portugal were not good last night. Or against England.

Posted By: Steve in Holland, Jul 6, 11:07:06