No. Webber was making a point that results can't be the only barometer of success.

His example was if we lose 1-0 to Leeds but we ourselves hit the bar 5 times. It wasvin response to Paddy's question on whether the board was giving Farke X number of games.

James appears to be making a separate point with the same analogy that if we'd only lost 1-0 to Chelsea it was actually our performance which was the problem.i agree with James.

I agree with Webbers specific point on this too for what it's worth.

But I can't imagine a world on current form in which what Webber described happens and that is the problem isn't it? It doesn't feel like we're close to turning a corner.

Posted By: trafford_canary, Oct 28, 08:23:49