that's what it comes down to isn't it

Having read it a few times the Johnson offer isn't a million miles away from what I suspect will happen in practice vis-a-vis the border in a No Deal scenario. We can't have border infrastructure, but we can't have no checks at all, so the next best thing is the sort of checks envisaged in the Johnson deal.

And I'll go out on a limb and say that, after the first few months of chaos have settled down and the UK and EU have come to ad hoc agreements on the main friction points, the real world relationship between the EU & UK won't be too dissimilar to the main provisions of the WA.

So for me the Johnson deal is about as good as I think we or the EU are going to get.

If the UK & EU genuinely can't find workarounds on the margins (eg the Stormont consent issue - strikes me that you should always have to vote positively to change the status quo) then I can't see how you can ever have a deal that isn't simply the EEA and BRINO, so it's a straight toss up between Revoke or No Deal, for me Clive.

Posted By: CWC, Oct 2, 20:12:55