Last night. A further apology.

I don’t want this post to be one another long thread so just intend to post this and not become involved in lengthy replies.

I want to make clear, as I felt I had last night, that I do not consider obscene or abuse of the nature described, aimed at a young girl, as being acceptable or appropriate, whether provoked or otherwise.

I had been drinking all day yesterday, was p**sed off at the match and had been arguing with the usual suspects on here about the Zimbo injury. I did not scored myself as well as I’d like and used some poor turns of phrase. The reason I was asking about the context and whether her group had provoked our fans at all was not to try and claim it’s ok to say that to a young girl, but really to try and understand how this incident happened because it’s not normal with our fans and whether it was a case of increasingly unpleasant exchanges leading to one group over stepping the mark (still not acceptable) or unprovoked, targeted abuse which I do think would make it a worse incident. That’s what I was getting at when I was asked how I would react if it was my daughter and I think my replies to those posts were the ones I got most wrong.

Down where we were the West Ham fans to our left were giving people constant abuse and you could see how quite unpleasant situations could arise with the stuff being shouted back and forth. That happens at football. That does not though make abuse of the nature described by Ad Mcechnie justified. When I posted my original reply to his post I had not seen the details so again I apologise to you Ad for that reply.

Posted By: Jim, Sep 1, 08:14:10