Yes, they're both big problems. Happens to so many relegated sides. They think they've

'Made it' and well, they've not.

But it's been a crazy day today beyond that. I bet Chelsea, Man City and Tottenham fans - and maybe Man Utd fans last night, maybe Liverpool fans too - are all saying the same thing.

Hard work beats quality if quality doesn't work as hard.

Posted By: thebigfeller, Jan 24, 20:09:59