One could argue that entrenched positions such as...

the problem is with "them" not "us" will just ensure that there is always a them and us position when what we need is a common sense approach from road users en mass.
We see stupidity on the roads from everyone and as the most vulnerable that stupidity from a cyclist can result in terrible consequences. I'm not sure abdicating responsibly to the motorist is necessarily going to help as there are an unequal number of numbnuts on that side.

Posted By: Pixelman, Nov 22, 12:40:45

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