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?Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.?

(Socrates, attr by Plato, though provenance somewhat in doubt the era is not)

Posted By: Old Man, Aug 15, 15:01:49