give me a link to such a 'reasoned' post then

I'd love to see one and you seem to know where they exist.

One that gives evidence of having considered anything other than defensive tactics as being responsible for our plight rather than just stating that they are to blame. We all (as far as I'm aware) agree and know we have been defensive so just giving reasons why you think we're defensive adds nothing to the argument.

Posted By: mr carra, May 7, 13:42:51

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