The thing is, if you turned up to see an FA Cup semi final

in the days of terracing, you were held up by traffic or whatever and they opened a gate, you'd go in and quite probably try to go in the pens behind the goal for the best view.

If it was very crowded, you'd push your way in, with no conception that people at the front might be dying.

Those of us who remember terracing know exactly how packed it could get - my feet didn't touch the ground for whole minutes at West Ham in the FA Cup game that season - so a massive crush was nothing unusual.

What was unusual was the police abrogating themselves of all responsibility, letting them all in, and then letting them all go in the already over-crowded central pens.

The police then refused to open the gates because they thought it was a pitch invasion, wouldn't let dozens of ambulances into the ground because they were "fighting on the pitch" and many were simply left on makeshift stretchers to die. Many could have been saved.

The fans were not to blame and it seriously f**ks me off that people STILL say they were.

Posted By: duke of york, Sep 12, 12:35:08