It's taken me by surprise this morning, to be honest

I'd not have expected Gwilty to say that, but so many people backing it up, no-one gloating - these are all old Stoke heads, our sort of age.

I've been to a few Vale - Stoke matches and it's been carnage, inside and outside, before and after

I was at this, it was mayhem

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Posted By: Karnivore, Mar 3, 23:23:18