You'll still have Bolton. And Spurs. And Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool.

Actually I'm not too hung up on the current Arsenal side - too whiny and sanctimonious. There are few things in football that annoy me more than listening to managers/fans moaning about teams who've just beaten them who play 'defensively' as it that were somehow cheating - there's a real art to good defending and counter-attacking play (especially if there's a lot of pressure on their chances as they know they won't get any.)

That said, there's very little art to Stoke's defending, or any other part of their play - it's absolute lowest common denominator stuff and I really hope they f**k off!

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot, Sep 13, 20:55:44