So what do we have?
We have at least 3 accounts of the shooting:
1. "He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the CO19 officers ... I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side. I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting ... I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away on to the floor of the carriage."
2. "Within a few seconds I saw a man coming into the double doors to my left. He was pointing a small black handgun towards a person sitting opposite me. He pointed the gun at the right hand side of the man's head. The gun was within 12 inches of the man's head when the first shot was fired."
(both from the "leaked" documents - quoted here: User Posted Link
3. "He looked absolutely petrified and then he sort of tripped, but they were hotly pursuing him, couldn't have been any more than two or three feet behind him at this time and he half tripped and was half pushed to the floor and the policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand. He held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him."
(here:User Posted Link )
At least 2 of these accounts MUST be false - might all be false of course.
And then we have this picture of the aftermath:
User Posted Link
Now does that look like a man who has been shot in his seat (whether restrained or not), or does it look like someone who has been tripped as he ran and then shot? Looks like the latter to me.
And now here's another thing:
"The dead man, killed at Stockwell tube station on Friday after fleeing from armed police, was named as 27-year-old Jean Charles de Menezes. His body was identified by Alex Pereira, a cousin who lives in London and who afterwards told The Observer: 'I can't believe they shot him, because he was not a terrorist. He was an honest man.
'We are still too shocked to talk about it. But I am sure he didn't do anything wrong. It was not right for the police to do that.'
Pereira said that the most upsetting part of identifying his cousin was 'to see bullet wounds in his back and his neck when I went to the mortuary in Greenwich.'"
(User Posted Link )
Well the problem is obvious - the man in the picture clearly has NOT been shot in the back - not if he was wearing that coat. And anyway, surely if you were identifying a body that had been shot once in the shoulder and seven times in the head surely the head wounds would be the most upsetting.
There is a hell of a lot of misinformation and covering up going on - but it seems to me that Whitby's account of the shooting, and Pereira's account of the body are broadly consistent - and neither of them has an axe to grind.
It seems to me that this leaker is not interested in the integrity of the enquiry - but is desperately trying to protect someone's back. Whose?
Posted By: Winged Eel Creosote, Aug 18, 01:35:21
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