This is no personal judgment on Roeder

But it seems to me that a definite rot has set in amongst the fans about his management. I'm largely indifferent to him - as fans go I'm really quite remarkably apathetic - but obviously the seeds of discontent, sown by a mediocre start to the season (even if this should have been the expectation), are being fed and watered by a personal dislike of his demeanour and attitude towards the supporters (the flames of which were not so much fanned as doused with petrol at the AGM). The manager who has the total and unwavering support of the whole fanbase does not exist - there will always be the Selwyns of this world who masochistically thrive in doing down the club they 'love'. However, once the scales start to tip towards discontent, it seems to me that more often than not they start to tip more and more rapidly, and moreover very rarely tip back.

My point is vague I suppose, and having made it we will inevitably win the next 5 games and all will be (relatively) well once again. But I can't help but feel that we are approaching another critical point in a manager's tenure, and all to soon.

Posted By: King on November 13th 2008 at 00:36:23

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This is no personal judgment on Roeder (NCFC) - King, Nov 13, 00:36:23
- Roeder is frustrating cause he does so much right and yet doesn't get the results he (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 00:45:35
- The way I see it, is the rot was already there, when Worthington went (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 00:41:15
  - But Roeder has done so much to eradicate the rot, why is he not yielding the results? (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 00:46:48
    - I think they'll come steadilly (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 00:53:17
      - I agree but it's difficult staying positive, with so much negative in-put by fans etc has (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 00:58:22
      - what about those who have said (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 00:54:54
        
        Not being argumentative, but which players look lke they dont care? (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:00:37
        
        i never went to derby or burnley (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:02:42
        
        I only go to AFKAFCR and London/SE games but from those it's not apparent, but there is (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:10:08
        
        holt and francis were brilliant around that time (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:12:26
        
        I loved Francis and Holt. They weren't creativer (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:14:07
        
        try again. they weren't the creative kings people are calling for at the mo. Clingan and (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:18:41
        
        ok you are a wind up (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:22:55
        
        No, on papier mache, they should be as good (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:24:12
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:24:34
        
        priceless (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:23:59
        
        copying my lines (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:24:54
        
        you asking someone if they're a wind up, is like (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:29:59
        
        so is the current squad better? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:30:31
        
        I'm not sure, I can see the point he's making though (n/m) (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:34:06
        
        can you explain how they can be compared as even being equal? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:35:04
        
        some of the players, like he said, are pound for pound similar (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:37:53
        
        he said the overall squad, not some players (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:39:41
        
        It's up to you what you do (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:41:32
        
        Go one then 2 players in each position?? (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:41:02
        
        i mean they all have 2 legs 2 arms and a head etc (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:36:37
        
        we had hucks for that lol (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:15:34
        
        promotion squad - it was pretty immense really (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:18:48
        
        Call me a stoopid twat, but I still feel pound for pound we have a better squad right now (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:20:07
        
        are you a wind up? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:21:46
        
        No one difference I'll admit to is Hucks, no Hucks no promotion, everything else about the (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:26:27
        
        well hucks was certainly the reason why we pissed it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:29:12
        
        Said the pot to the kettle (n/m) (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:22:49
        
        so what do you think? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:24:20
        
        I'm commenting on how you have the audacity to ask someone else on here (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:27:29
        
        well it was based on saying this squad is better on paper (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:30:11
        
        Think before promotion season we were average, a few key signings and everything fell into (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:39:54
        
        matches a heavilly laboured point about the championship (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:49:52
        
        I find it difficult to comprehend (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:32:47
        
        asking if they're a wind up wasn't an insult (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:40:13
        
        No not a wind up at all. I'm merely analysing why the promotion season was as fruitful as (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Nov 13, 01:42:48
        
        of course it was (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:42:38
        
        so no comparison with now whatsoever sorry (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:12:48
        
        shame you couldn't earlier comparing bell with francis (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:15:42
        
        i was comparing their worth in the market (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:17:54
        
        and i meant no comparison (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:20:26
        
        haha, return of the sweary spazfits (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:54:15
        
        you said you thought he had a point (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:56:45
        
        I suppose to you it would (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 02:00:48
        
        anyone would think both sides are in the bottom 3 (n/m) (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:09:52
        
        and when they say it's as bad as certain games (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:03:22
        
        What? Losing away to decent sides? (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:10:44
        
        yeah cos all we do is just lose to decent sides (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 01:13:57
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Smickers, Nov 13, 01:16:46
  - But this is different (NCFC) - King, Nov 13, 00:46:36
  - that's what happens when you employ rotten managers... (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Nov 13, 00:41:49
- yep, that's how I see it (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Nov 13, 00:38:42

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