You can have an opinion

but how valid is it? Not having seen any of them play in real life I wouldn't dare to venture an opinion as to whether, for example, Pele was better than Maradonna, or Puskas, or Eusebio, for example. Watching on TV gives a very narrow view of what is going on - you can't see what is going on off the ball, who is making themselves available etc.
An example of the basic errors you can make was where, for instance, someone watching on the TV claimed that Holt played better at Fulham than Safri, or Ashton.
If people are going to make definitive statements on the quality of players that's fine, but let's be clear about what opinions are based on - whether it's TV, or highlights, or the dubious rantings of Waller.

Posted By: Winged Eel Creosote on July 28th 2005 at 14:10:10

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one of teh best defenders we ever had (NCFC) - south, Jul 28, 13:17:11
- coincidentally (NCFC) - east of hampstead, Jul 28, 13:20:50
  - What about Edworthy ? Russell ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:36:53
    - weren't stuck in stiffs for 6 months. (n/m) (NCFC) - east of hampstead, Jul 28, 14:06:21
  - I thought it happened to Bowen (NCFC) - mr carra, Jul 28, 13:29:57
    - bowen went public (NCFC) - east of hampstead, Jul 28, 14:06:57
  - But did he ask for move? (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:25:32
    - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:28:42
- Sorry to say a bit of old story again (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:19:45
  - How many times did you see him play? (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 28, 13:22:03
    - I saw him played from 1992 (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:24:34
      - No you didn't. (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 28, 13:31:59
        
        It is you said (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:49:32
        
        mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:52:06
      - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:29:16
      - On the telly you mean ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:25:38
        
        Yes of course, but I mean to reply to someone (not you of course because you make sense) (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:28:07
        
        mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:32:01
        
        Are you saying he's a mentalist cos he said I make sense ??? :-O (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:46:32
        
        And how did you get to see ALL those games ? (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:26:03
        
        on tv!!!! (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:28:50
        
        Mathematics. (NCFC) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 28, 13:33:03
        
        I was going to a lot of home games in those days, AND watched as much as poss on the (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:47:46
        
        So you never saw him play then? (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 28, 13:32:40
        
        I never saw Pele live, but I know he was some player.. (NCFC) - earlydoors, Jul 28, 13:37:10
        
        You can have an opinion (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 28, 14:10:10
        
        Culverhouse wasn't Pele though (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:47:59
        
        mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:32:11
  - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:20:30
- To be honest (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:19:07
  - He wasn't WORLD CLASS but he was a hellva right back (NCFC) - oh arr, Jul 28, 13:35:56
    - Yeah but (NCFC) - Winged Eel Creosote, Jul 28, 14:13:33
  - He was superb in those UEFA Cup games (NCFC) - XXL16, Jul 28, 13:21:07
    - mentalist (n/m) (NCFC) - Bryan Giggs, Jul 28, 13:29:41
    - as a sweeper (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jul 28, 13:22:34

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